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You never came up with any negatives about working on google cloud or really gave any useful information. You must have some relevant things to talk about.

xiphias2 8y ago
He was a PM, so he doesn't understand the real problems inside Google. Talking about agility: you have to provision TPUs years ahead. Developer jobs are taken over by higher priority production tasks all the time. Datacenters are always turned down, and job dependencies on datacenters are still managed manually, as the internal tools don't support automatic migration. Forgetting to provision necessery network quota means that even when you get a lot of GCUs, you have to wait months again to get network quota. If you find the right SRE though they try to be helpful, but their tools are limited as well. I'm not saying things are bad though. There are lots of great tgings at Google, but agility is not one of them.
elp 8y ago
Something I've always wondered is if Google is such an awesome company then why are there so many ex Googlers? It always feels strange to me that it seems like every second person on HN used to work at Google, but all of them say how great Google was.
- shemnon42 8y ago
  If the New England Patriots/LA Lakers/New York Yankees/Manchester are such a great team why are there so many former players? Sometimes what the team needs and what you need don't align. Wrong sport, wrong coach, not enough play time, not good enough, hate the fans, etc.
- Latteland 8y ago
  I left google because I was working on v. 8 or 9 of things, and it just got boring adding new features to giant systems that weren't that interesting. I wanted to work on core software again, write a new system, or have freedom to make improvements and change. I didn't want to work on a multi-million line java program with relatively fixed architecture and slow evolution over time. There were tons of great things about google, good pay, the best people, awesome benefits, the gym, food. Really the quality of devs when I was there for almost 10 years were excellent. I only came across one asshole manager in my time there (unfortunately he was my manager, but he's left since). The technology of test, development, source code editing was the best. But, there weren't that many fun projects.

xiphias2 8y ago

He was a PM, so he doesn't understand the real problems inside Google. Talking about agility: you have to provision TPUs years ahead. Developer jobs are taken over by higher priority production tasks all the time. Datacenters are always turned down, and job dependencies on datacenters are still managed manually, as the internal tools don't support automatic migration. Forgetting to provision necessery network quota means that even when you get a lot of GCUs, you have to wait months again to get network quota. If you find the right SRE though they try to be helpful, but their tools are limited as well. I'm not saying things are bad though. There are lots of great tgings at Google, but agility is not one of them.

elp 8y ago

Something I've always wondered is if Google is such an awesome company then why are there so many ex Googlers? It always feels strange to me that it seems like every second person on HN used to work at Google, but all of them say how great Google was.

shemnon42 8y ago
If the New England Patriots/LA Lakers/New York Yankees/Manchester are such a great team why are there so many former players? Sometimes what the team needs and what you need don't align. Wrong sport, wrong coach, not enough play time, not good enough, hate the fans, etc.
Latteland 8y ago
I left google because I was working on v. 8 or 9 of things, and it just got boring adding new features to giant systems that weren't that interesting. I wanted to work on core software again, write a new system, or have freedom to make improvements and change. I didn't want to work on a multi-million line java program with relatively fixed architecture and slow evolution over time. There were tons of great things about google, good pay, the best people, awesome benefits, the gym, food. Really the quality of devs when I was there for almost 10 years were excellent. I only came across one asshole manager in my time there (unfortunately he was my manager, but he's left since). The technology of test, development, source code editing was the best. But, there weren't that many fun projects.