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"Go dig" and "general conclusions" don't make any sense in this case. The evidence for the conclusion is there. The point, as stated in my original post, is th

"Go dig" and "general conclusions" don't make any sense in this case. The evidence for the conclusion is there. The point, as stated in my original post, is that "fake news" type reporting isn't confined to right leaning publications. One doesn't need to dig much to determine that. Yet one view source is banned, the other is not. This isn't "assumption" or accusation, it's how it appears to be. What I really hear you saying, (and I think reality comes out a bit further down in your post), is "I don't like Breitbart!". And, emotionally not liking something is a good reason as any to downvote so that is fine. Thanks for the explanation. But just to re-iterate, I don't care for Breitbart either. Nor CNN. I do think Wikipedia should stay out of politics though.

lolc 8y ago
Are you comparing CNN to Breitbart? And by what standards? > I do think Wikipedia should stay out of politics though. Impossible. What gave you the idea?
- mythrwy 8y ago
  You are saying you think it's ok for Wikipedia to have a political bias or you are saying you don't think this indicates they have one? If it's the first I guess we have to just disagree and that's it and I'm really sad you feel that way and wish you would reconsider your stance. If it's the second, there are arguments to be made. My concern isn't your political views or distaste for the slant of some publication. I understand that, I don't like grossly biased publications either. My concern is the danger of a politically motivated group of people removing a publication from being cited in a very large crowd-sourced knowledge base because some people don't like the slant. Whatever happened to principal before preference? Did that all go away and now we just try to bulldoze our way around everything at any cost because we think our subjective opinions are "right"? Can't folks see how not only futile but self defeating this is? Smart folks at that. WTF? is all I can really say. It's a big world with lots of opposing visions and views. And people have a right to these, even when we believe differently, and a good knowledge base will try to remain objective.
  - lolc 8y ago
    I disagree with the narrow meaning you give to the term "political". Political is anything related to how we organize our government. From my understanding what you mean is "partisan". You're implying that Wikipedia is partisan to "left-leaning" news sources. And you mention CNN. Are you saying that if Wikipedia bans Breitbart, they should ban CNN too? And on what basis? What would be the standard they should use? I agree that the polarization observed in US politics is a dangerous trend. But I think that Wikipedia is navigating this well.
    - mythrwy 8y ago
      You may be right. I have only visited Breitbart a few times, the actual "reporting" seemed to be reasonably accurate (although certainly overlaid with bias). I'm just concerned is all.

lolc 8y ago

Are you comparing CNN to Breitbart? And by what standards? > I do think Wikipedia should stay out of politics though. Impossible. What gave you the idea?

mythrwy 8y ago
You are saying you think it's ok for Wikipedia to have a political bias or you are saying you don't think this indicates they have one? If it's the first I guess we have to just disagree and that's it and I'm really sad you feel that way and wish you would reconsider your stance. If it's the second, there are arguments to be made. My concern isn't your political views or distaste for the slant of some publication. I understand that, I don't like grossly biased publications either. My concern is the danger of a politically motivated group of people removing a publication from being cited in a very large crowd-sourced knowledge base because some people don't like the slant. Whatever happened to principal before preference? Did that all go away and now we just try to bulldoze our way around everything at any cost because we think our subjective opinions are "right"? Can't folks see how not only futile but self defeating this is? Smart folks at that. WTF? is all I can really say. It's a big world with lots of opposing visions and views. And people have a right to these, even when we believe differently, and a good knowledge base will try to remain objective.
- lolc 8y ago
  I disagree with the narrow meaning you give to the term "political". Political is anything related to how we organize our government. From my understanding what you mean is "partisan". You're implying that Wikipedia is partisan to "left-leaning" news sources. And you mention CNN. Are you saying that if Wikipedia bans Breitbart, they should ban CNN too? And on what basis? What would be the standard they should use? I agree that the polarization observed in US politics is a dangerous trend. But I think that Wikipedia is navigating this well.
  - mythrwy 8y ago
    You may be right. I have only visited Breitbart a few times, the actual "reporting" seemed to be reasonably accurate (although certainly overlaid with bias). I'm just concerned is all.