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It’s fashionable just now to hate monoliths, so much so that developers would probably be afraid to suggest anything other than creating a suite of microservice

It’s fashionable just now to hate monoliths, so much so that developers would probably be afraid to suggest anything other than creating a suite of microservices for fear of sounding backward or inexperienced. It’s a bit like if anyone ever dared to suggest that they don’t adopt Agile. You’d probably be chased out the room by an angry mob.

jacob019 8y ago
I've been seeing more and more backlash against micro-service architecture recently. Seems silly to me. Developers should match the architecture to th problem and adapt as needed rather than sticking to an ideological pattern.
- brbrodude 8y ago
  But "monolith" is a concept of bad stuff so everyone must get away from it, apparently. The thing is, they're just throwing this word around, before the micro-service trend "monolith" to me meant software with no boundaries, modules, design, like it solidified in a bad state, to which the antidote was design. Seeing this word being used to describe "not running micro-service architecture" gives me feels of lobby/marketing manipulation in the craft, this is plain bullshit. If the application is well designed, it is not a monolith! If it's well designed then it has well defined pieces and well defined API then if you need to micro-service anything you can just plug it out, it still is just a fucking API, you could be calling it by pigeon carrier, it doesn't matter. Having basic software development concepts being pushed, or positioned, as trendy pricey buzzword-manager-throws-around hot-architecture concern is nothing more than a corruption of the craft. Damn fools.
  - dave_sid 8y ago
    Exactly!
anothergoogler 8y ago
It's fashionable right now to like monoliths. It's "thought leaders" trying to one-up other "thought leaders," contradicting for sport. And who cares anyway? Software fashion is cargo cult nonsense pushed by people who probably struggle to ship anything that's robust or reusable. They're obsessed with keeping up with "thought leaders" on Twitter and Medium. They fly to speak at conferences and make a big name for themselves while the rest of us are busy grinding and limiting the damage they can do.
- xirdstl 8y ago
  It may be fashionable to like monoliths on HN, but microservices is still the hotness if I judge by the recruiting emails I get.
  - anothergoogler 8y ago
    Exactly, microservices are mainstream and boring now. Designing around services? You must be a pointy-haired boss!
- dave_sid 8y ago
  Cult Driven Development. That’s where we are now. I think it’s one of the things that puts me off the job most these days.

jacob019 8y ago

I've been seeing more and more backlash against micro-service architecture recently. Seems silly to me. Developers should match the architecture to th problem and adapt as needed rather than sticking to an ideological pattern.

brbrodude 8y ago
But "monolith" is a concept of bad stuff so everyone must get away from it, apparently. The thing is, they're just throwing this word around, before the micro-service trend "monolith" to me meant software with no boundaries, modules, design, like it solidified in a bad state, to which the antidote was design. Seeing this word being used to describe "not running micro-service architecture" gives me feels of lobby/marketing manipulation in the craft, this is plain bullshit. If the application is well designed, it is not a monolith! If it's well designed then it has well defined pieces and well defined API then if you need to micro-service anything you can just plug it out, it still is just a fucking API, you could be calling it by pigeon carrier, it doesn't matter. Having basic software development concepts being pushed, or positioned, as trendy pricey buzzword-manager-throws-around hot-architecture concern is nothing more than a corruption of the craft. Damn fools.
- dave_sid 8y ago
  Exactly!

anothergoogler 8y ago

It's fashionable right now to like monoliths. It's "thought leaders" trying to one-up other "thought leaders," contradicting for sport. And who cares anyway? Software fashion is cargo cult nonsense pushed by people who probably struggle to ship anything that's robust or reusable. They're obsessed with keeping up with "thought leaders" on Twitter and Medium. They fly to speak at conferences and make a big name for themselves while the rest of us are busy grinding and limiting the damage they can do.

xirdstl 8y ago
It may be fashionable to like monoliths on HN, but microservices is still the hotness if I judge by the recruiting emails I get.
- anothergoogler 8y ago
  Exactly, microservices are mainstream and boring now. Designing around services? You must be a pointy-haired boss!
dave_sid 8y ago
Cult Driven Development. That’s where we are now. I think it’s one of the things that puts me off the job most these days.