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KDE is convenient for a lot of things. At least, handling of the desktop / wallpaper, the amazing command runner, the menu with its search bar that also support

by jraph 8y ago

KDE is convenient for a lot of things. At least, handling of the desktop / wallpaper, the amazing command runner, the menu with its search bar that also supports running commands, the network, bluetooth, clipboard management, the task manager, the configuration center, the overall integration that pretty much stays here event without KDE's window manager (which is amazing too). I'm not speaking about KDE applications because they are usable outside of plasma, but I tend to like them too. So yes, if one day I found that an advanced tiling window manager is what I want, maybe I would keep the rest of the KDE environment.

qwerty456127 8y ago
Yes, you're right. I've forgotten the command runner isn't a standard feature of other DEs/WMs... As for BlueTooth - I have never managed to make it work - it worked on Ubuntu (although it used to take me ~10 minutes of random switching to make my BT headphones work with it but at least it would always detect them, the problem was setting them up correctly) but doesn't work on Manjaro+KDE at all, fortunately I don't really need it. As for clipboard management - it can be helpful in many cases but in my everyday work it only annoys me as I can't find how to disable clipboard erasure on Kate exit.
- jraph 8y ago
  For what it's worth, krunner works well outside of plasma. I've found that the one of lxqt is quite nice too. I'm lost with runners from other desktop environments. No auto completion, no history or no calculator. I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. Annoying when this happens. KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Off topic: by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland compositors is sadly the main thing that keeps me from using Wayland. Which is too bad, since my WQHD screen support in X is so so. I hope this gets fixed in a not to distant future, I rely on this feature.
  - qwerty456127 8y ago
    > I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. I've never encountered this behavior in any DE before moving to KDE5 and even with KDE5. > KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Although I admit clipboard history can be useful and even I used to have a task made easier with it, now I really don't want a clipboard manager to keep history. > by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5.
    - jraph 8y ago
      I think I encounter this behavior outside of big desktop managers, when using an openbox session for instance. For clipboard history, I understand that you don't want everything saved. I think most clipboard managers allow you to delete entries. (But you have to think about it) >> by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland > It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5. I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly?
      - qwerty456127 8y ago
        > I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly? I can't remember particular cases already but sometimes middle mouse click won't paste anything or will paste old clipboard content and only Ctrl+V works the meant way. It seems this happens either because Ctrl+C/V and MMB actually use 2 independent clipboards that are not always synchronized correctly or because some UI toolkits have some quirks with this part.
        jraph 8y ago
        Yes, I actually rely on mouse paste and Ctrl+V being independent clipboards (though usually clipboard managers offer to synchronize them, which I've never tried, so I can't say if it works flawlessly, and I can imagine glitches here). Edit: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139191/whats-the-difference-between-primary-selection-and-clipboard-buffer https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139191/whats-the-di...
xfer 8y ago
Yes the amazingly tiny command runner that stays on top of screen and you fiddle with pos in kwin setting to make it appear somewhere sensible. I rather use dmenu/rofi for this.

by jraph 8y ago

qwerty456127 8y ago

Yes, you're right. I've forgotten the command runner isn't a standard feature of other DEs/WMs... As for BlueTooth - I have never managed to make it work - it worked on Ubuntu (although it used to take me ~10 minutes of random switching to make my BT headphones work with it but at least it would always detect them, the problem was setting them up correctly) but doesn't work on Manjaro+KDE at all, fortunately I don't really need it. As for clipboard management - it can be helpful in many cases but in my everyday work it only annoys me as I can't find how to disable clipboard erasure on Kate exit.

jraph 8y ago
For what it's worth, krunner works well outside of plasma. I've found that the one of lxqt is quite nice too. I'm lost with runners from other desktop environments. No auto completion, no history or no calculator. I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. Annoying when this happens. KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Off topic: by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland compositors is sadly the main thing that keeps me from using Wayland. Which is too bad, since my WQHD screen support in X is so so. I hope this gets fixed in a not to distant future, I rely on this feature.
- qwerty456127 8y ago
  > I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. I've never encountered this behavior in any DE before moving to KDE5 and even with KDE5. > KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Although I admit clipboard history can be useful and even I used to have a task made easier with it, now I really don't want a clipboard manager to keep history. > by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5.
  - jraph 8y ago
    I think I encounter this behavior outside of big desktop managers, when using an openbox session for instance. For clipboard history, I understand that you don't want everything saved. I think most clipboard managers allow you to delete entries. (But you have to think about it) >> by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland > It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5. I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly?
    - qwerty456127 8y ago
      > I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly? I can't remember particular cases already but sometimes middle mouse click won't paste anything or will paste old clipboard content and only Ctrl+V works the meant way. It seems this happens either because Ctrl+C/V and MMB actually use 2 independent clipboards that are not always synchronized correctly or because some UI toolkits have some quirks with this part.
      - jraph 8y ago
        Yes, I actually rely on mouse paste and Ctrl+V being independent clipboards (though usually clipboard managers offer to synchronize them, which I've never tried, so I can't say if it works flawlessly, and I can imagine glitches here). Edit: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139191/whats-the-difference-between-primary-selection-and-clipboard-buffer https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139191/whats-the-di...

xfer 8y ago

Yes the amazingly tiny command runner that stays on top of screen and you fiddle with pos in kwin setting to make it appear somewhere sensible. I rather use dmenu/rofi for this.