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You can combine KDE with a tiling WM very easily

qwerty456127 8y ago
And what would I get and why would I probably need it? In fact the only things I want from a DE are a Win7-like task panel + pretty and convenient window decorations. Another thing I love about KDE is Krusader - the best Linux file manager I know (I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable).
- jraph 8y ago
  KDE is convenient for a lot of things. At least, handling of the desktop / wallpaper, the amazing command runner, the menu with its search bar that also supports running commands, the network, bluetooth, clipboard management, the task manager, the configuration center, the overall integration that pretty much stays here event without KDE's window manager (which is amazing too). I'm not speaking about KDE applications because they are usable outside of plasma, but I tend to like them too. So yes, if one day I found that an advanced tiling window manager is what I want, maybe I would keep the rest of the KDE environment.
  - qwerty456127 8y ago
    Yes, you're right. I've forgotten the command runner isn't a standard feature of other DEs/WMs... As for BlueTooth - I have never managed to make it work - it worked on Ubuntu (although it used to take me ~10 minutes of random switching to make my BT headphones work with it but at least it would always detect them, the problem was setting them up correctly) but doesn't work on Manjaro+KDE at all, fortunately I don't really need it. As for clipboard management - it can be helpful in many cases but in my everyday work it only annoys me as I can't find how to disable clipboard erasure on Kate exit.
    - jraph 8y ago
      For what it's worth, krunner works well outside of plasma. I've found that the one of lxqt is quite nice too. I'm lost with runners from other desktop environments. No auto completion, no history or no calculator. I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. Annoying when this happens. KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Off topic: by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland compositors is sadly the main thing that keeps me from using Wayland. Which is too bad, since my WQHD screen support in X is so so. I hope this gets fixed in a not to distant future, I rely on this feature.
      - qwerty456127 8y ago
        > I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. I've never encountered this behavior in any DE before moving to KDE5 and even with KDE5. > KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Although I admit clipboard history can be useful and even I used to have a task made easier with it, now I really don't want a clipboard manager to keep history. > by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5.
        jraph 8y ago
        I think I encounter this behavior outside of big desktop managers, when using an openbox session for instance. For clipboard history, I understand that you don't want everything saved. I think most clipboard managers allow you to delete entries. (But you have to think about it) >> by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland > It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5. I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly?
        qwerty456127 8y ago
        > I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly? I can't remember particular cases already but sometimes middle mouse click won't paste anything or will paste old clipboard content and only Ctrl+V works the meant way. It seems this happens either because Ctrl+C/V and MMB actually use 2 independent clipboards that are not always synchronized correctly or because some UI toolkits have some quirks with this part.
  - xfer 8y ago
    Yes the amazingly tiny command runner that stays on top of screen and you fiddle with pos in kwin setting to make it appear somewhere sensible. I rather use dmenu/rofi for this.
- diffeomorphism 8y ago
  > I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable Could you elaborate what you mean by that? Whether you run an application on a qt-based DE or gtk-based or motif or no DE... does not matter at all in my experience. The only difference is the default gtk or qt theme used (easily changed) and what the window decorations look like.
  - qwerty456127 8y ago
    Some text was unreadable (i.e. almost-white on white), some most of the icons was missing, the rest just ugly. I have no idea how to change the Qt theme in vanilla Ubuntu or Xubuntu, all the other Qt apps (e.g. VLC) looked fine (I believe the problem only affects apps build against KDE frameworks and not against pure Qt).
    - diffeomorphism 8y ago
      Ah, so wrong default config of qgtkstyle and colors. In kde selecting the gtk theme is very simple via system settings but gnome insists on things like tweak tool instead. You can use qt5ct to set the config. > (I believe the problem only affects apps build against KDE frameworks and not against pure Qt). Not in my experience. It is just that some of the more basic qt apps behave better with missing icons or wrongly configured colors.
zarkov99 8y ago
Which one? And how well does it really work?
- deleted 8y ago
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And what would I get and why would I probably need it? In fact the only things I want from a DE are a Win7-like task panel + pretty and convenient window decorations. Another thing I love about KDE is Krusader - the best Linux file manager I know (I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable).

jraph 8y ago
KDE is convenient for a lot of things. At least, handling of the desktop / wallpaper, the amazing command runner, the menu with its search bar that also supports running commands, the network, bluetooth, clipboard management, the task manager, the configuration center, the overall integration that pretty much stays here event without KDE's window manager (which is amazing too). I'm not speaking about KDE applications because they are usable outside of plasma, but I tend to like them too. So yes, if one day I found that an advanced tiling window manager is what I want, maybe I would keep the rest of the KDE environment.
- qwerty456127 8y ago
  Yes, you're right. I've forgotten the command runner isn't a standard feature of other DEs/WMs... As for BlueTooth - I have never managed to make it work - it worked on Ubuntu (although it used to take me ~10 minutes of random switching to make my BT headphones work with it but at least it would always detect them, the problem was setting them up correctly) but doesn't work on Manjaro+KDE at all, fortunately I don't really need it. As for clipboard management - it can be helpful in many cases but in my everyday work it only annoys me as I can't find how to disable clipboard erasure on Kate exit.
  - jraph 8y ago
    For what it's worth, krunner works well outside of plasma. I've found that the one of lxqt is quite nice too. I'm lost with runners from other desktop environments. No auto completion, no history or no calculator. I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. Annoying when this happens. KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Off topic: by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland compositors is sadly the main thing that keeps me from using Wayland. Which is too bad, since my WQHD screen support in X is so so. I hope this gets fixed in a not to distant future, I rely on this feature.
    - qwerty456127 8y ago
      > I've found that clipboard is wiped on application exit in X11 when no clipboard manager is running. I've never encountered this behavior in any DE before moving to KDE5 and even with KDE5. > KDE's one is Klipper, and I tend to set it such that it keeps and history or 50 items. Although I admit clipboard history can be useful and even I used to have a task made easier with it, now I really don't want a clipboard manager to keep history. > by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5.
      - jraph 8y ago
        I think I encounter this behavior outside of big desktop managers, when using an openbox session for instance. For clipboard history, I understand that you don't want everything saved. I think most clipboard managers allow you to delete entries. (But you have to think about it) >> by the way, the absence of Copy paste using select+middle clic when using Wayland > It doesn't work as it is meant to, reliably with all the apps even with X11 with KDE5. I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly?
        qwerty456127 8y ago
        > I'm curious, in which situation it does not work correctly? I can't remember particular cases already but sometimes middle mouse click won't paste anything or will paste old clipboard content and only Ctrl+V works the meant way. It seems this happens either because Ctrl+C/V and MMB actually use 2 independent clipboards that are not always synchronized correctly or because some UI toolkits have some quirks with this part.
- xfer 8y ago
  Yes the amazingly tiny command runner that stays on top of screen and you fiddle with pos in kwin setting to make it appear somewhere sensible. I rather use dmenu/rofi for this.
diffeomorphism 8y ago
> I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable I've tried using it in a GTK environment on Ubuntu but it looked ugly to the point of unusable Could you elaborate what you mean by that? Whether you run an application on a qt-based DE or gtk-based or motif or no DE... does not matter at all in my experience. The only difference is the default gtk or qt theme used (easily changed) and what the window decorations look like.
- qwerty456127 8y ago
  Some text was unreadable (i.e. almost-white on white), some most of the icons was missing, the rest just ugly. I have no idea how to change the Qt theme in vanilla Ubuntu or Xubuntu, all the other Qt apps (e.g. VLC) looked fine (I believe the problem only affects apps build against KDE frameworks and not against pure Qt).
  - diffeomorphism 8y ago
    Ah, so wrong default config of qgtkstyle and colors. In kde selecting the gtk theme is very simple via system settings but gnome insists on things like tweak tool instead. You can use qt5ct to set the config. > (I believe the problem only affects apps build against KDE frameworks and not against pure Qt). Not in my experience. It is just that some of the more basic qt apps behave better with missing icons or wrongly configured colors.

zarkov99 8y ago

Which one? And how well does it really work?

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