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Thanks to capitalism, TOTAL numbers of people living in poverty are decreasing at an unprecedented rate. Every global measure we look at shows quality of life i

Thanks to capitalism, TOTAL numbers of people living in poverty are decreasing at an unprecedented rate. Every global measure we look at shows quality of life improvements like this, as capitalism and democracy have spread. https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty Also, I do regard starving and enslaving constituents as much worse ethically than conquering another tribe or nation.

gnulinux 8y ago
What people continuously insist on not understanding (both self-claimed socialists and capitalists) is that capitalism is supposed to be much better than earlier systems. This is the central argument of Marx. He claims the world is in a never-ending struggle between social classes. It's very obvious that capitalism is better than older systems because it's the product of earlier conflicts; so your argument does not mean anything to me. The idea is to make it even better.
prolikewh0a 8y ago
Thanks to Capitalism, those people were put into extreme poverty in the first place. How many millions need to continue dying from poverty, war, and poor hygiene for Capitalism to get the same nonsense thrown at it? It's only $30 billion a year to end world hunger, but world capitalism won't step up to the plate, instead spending it on new military toys to bomb those people in extreme poverty. How much food is wasted on top of that? http://www.fao.org/NEWSROOM/en/news/2008/1000853/index.html http://www.fao.org/NEWSROOM/en/news/2008/1000853/index.html
AnarchoYeasty 8y ago
No capitalism has not brought millions out of poverty. Here is why: https://youtu.be/A6VqV1T4uYs https://youtu.be/A6VqV1T4uYs edit: Ok downvote me if you want, it doesn't change the truth that your data is built off of lies. I though HN prides ourselves on not falling for stupid manipulations of data, like the very charts you are pointing to.
kazinator 8y ago
It's not pure, unbridled capitalism, though.

gnulinux 8y ago

What people continuously insist on not understanding (both self-claimed socialists and capitalists) is that capitalism is supposed to be much better than earlier systems. This is the central argument of Marx. He claims the world is in a never-ending struggle between social classes. It's very obvious that capitalism is better than older systems because it's the product of earlier conflicts; so your argument does not mean anything to me. The idea is to make it even better.

prolikewh0a 8y ago

Thanks to Capitalism, those people were put into extreme poverty in the first place. How many millions need to continue dying from poverty, war, and poor hygiene for Capitalism to get the same nonsense thrown at it? It's only $30 billion a year to end world hunger, but world capitalism won't step up to the plate, instead spending it on new military toys to bomb those people in extreme poverty. How much food is wasted on top of that? http://www.fao.org/NEWSROOM/en/news/2008/1000853/index.html http://www.fao.org/NEWSROOM/en/news/2008/1000853/index.html

AnarchoYeasty 8y ago

No capitalism has not brought millions out of poverty. Here is why: https://youtu.be/A6VqV1T4uYs https://youtu.be/A6VqV1T4uYs edit: Ok downvote me if you want, it doesn't change the truth that your data is built off of lies. I though HN prides ourselves on not falling for stupid manipulations of data, like the very charts you are pointing to.

kazinator 8y ago

It's not pure, unbridled capitalism, though.