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Amazing how a medical doctor from that era would probably be put in jail today for the treatments they did.

geezerjay 8y ago
We should put things in perspective. Nowadays doctors still treat diseases by cutting off bits out of the patient, and dentists still employ medieval procedures.
- mannykannot 8y ago
  If your dentist does not have the option of using local anesthesia, to pick just one of a great many things not available to a medieval tooth-puller, you might want to consider switching to another practitioner.
- Moto7451 8y ago
  Mine uses a scanning array and a 3D milling machine to manufacture implants and fillings in office. Not all that medieval. You may just need a new dentist.
  - geezerjay 8y ago
    > Mine uses a scanning array and a 3D milling machine to manufacture implants and fillings in office. Not all that medieval. How did your dentist found room in your mouth to jam in some implants? That sort of thing is pretty medieval even if you sugarcoat your modern day version of wooden dentures with CAD software and CNC milling machines.
    - Moto7451 8y ago
      Because they’re able to detect issues before they get that bad, all my natural teeth are in place. I come in, they scan my teeth, drill out a tiny amount of decay before it turns into something that requires a tooth to be removed, and precisely mill a filling instead of hammering and drilling away my teeth to fill it with some lead alloy like the days of old. Anyone doing that is stuck in decades old practices. I understand where you’re trying to go with your comment. It’s simply not the case that we’re being given bottles of gin while the dentist pulls out a hammer and chisel. I just went in and had part of my tooth replaced because part of it crushed (I have very bad teeth). I felt zero pain. My heart rate remained under 60 the whole time. It was quick and easy. Good Dentists are not mad scientists out to destroy you for financial gain.
      - KSteffensen 8y ago
        They might not use lead fillings, but they still use mercury amalgam unless you tell them not to. Filling your mouth with Mercury seems pretty medieval even though there are good reasons for it (the mercury amalgam has far better mechanical properties than the plastic that replaces it).
      - geezerjay 8y ago
        > drill out a tiny amount of decay before it turns into something that requires a tooth to be removed, So, drilling cavities and pulling out teeth. Those are the standard treatments that were performed in medieval times. Where exactly do you see any ground to disagree with this fact?
- throwaway20148 8y ago
  I actually have a condition that is best treated through supervised blood letting.
Pica_soO 8y ago
Oh, they would just have to redecorate - its alternative medicine.
jandrese 8y ago
People get killed by quackery even today and we don't generally put people in jail. Steve Jobs cancer for example was possibly a result of his mostly fruit diet and when he got cancer instead of a traditional treatment he doubled down on the fruit quackery and other new age bullshit. He died.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Cancer from fruit? This is the first I've heard of that. I can't google for it either, because there are pages and pages of links about fruit preventing cancer.
  - jandrese 8y ago
    https://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2013/02/07/ashton-kutchers-fruitarian-diet-what-went-wrong https://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2013/02/07/as... Fruit heavy diets are very hard on the pancreas. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/02/11/all-fruit-diet.aspx https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/02/...

We should put things in perspective. Nowadays doctors still treat diseases by cutting off bits out of the patient, and dentists still employ medieval procedures.

mannykannot 8y ago
If your dentist does not have the option of using local anesthesia, to pick just one of a great many things not available to a medieval tooth-puller, you might want to consider switching to another practitioner.
Moto7451 8y ago
Mine uses a scanning array and a 3D milling machine to manufacture implants and fillings in office. Not all that medieval. You may just need a new dentist.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  > Mine uses a scanning array and a 3D milling machine to manufacture implants and fillings in office. Not all that medieval. How did your dentist found room in your mouth to jam in some implants? That sort of thing is pretty medieval even if you sugarcoat your modern day version of wooden dentures with CAD software and CNC milling machines.
  - Moto7451 8y ago
    Because they’re able to detect issues before they get that bad, all my natural teeth are in place. I come in, they scan my teeth, drill out a tiny amount of decay before it turns into something that requires a tooth to be removed, and precisely mill a filling instead of hammering and drilling away my teeth to fill it with some lead alloy like the days of old. Anyone doing that is stuck in decades old practices. I understand where you’re trying to go with your comment. It’s simply not the case that we’re being given bottles of gin while the dentist pulls out a hammer and chisel. I just went in and had part of my tooth replaced because part of it crushed (I have very bad teeth). I felt zero pain. My heart rate remained under 60 the whole time. It was quick and easy. Good Dentists are not mad scientists out to destroy you for financial gain.
    - KSteffensen 8y ago
      They might not use lead fillings, but they still use mercury amalgam unless you tell them not to. Filling your mouth with Mercury seems pretty medieval even though there are good reasons for it (the mercury amalgam has far better mechanical properties than the plastic that replaces it).
    - geezerjay 8y ago
      > drill out a tiny amount of decay before it turns into something that requires a tooth to be removed, So, drilling cavities and pulling out teeth. Those are the standard treatments that were performed in medieval times. Where exactly do you see any ground to disagree with this fact?
throwaway20148 8y ago
I actually have a condition that is best treated through supervised blood letting.

Pica_soO 8y ago

Oh, they would just have to redecorate - its alternative medicine.

jandrese 8y ago

People get killed by quackery even today and we don't generally put people in jail. Steve Jobs cancer for example was possibly a result of his mostly fruit diet and when he got cancer instead of a traditional treatment he doubled down on the fruit quackery and other new age bullshit. He died.

jessaustin 8y ago
Cancer from fruit? This is the first I've heard of that. I can't google for it either, because there are pages and pages of links about fruit preventing cancer.
- jandrese 8y ago
  https://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2013/02/07/ashton-kutchers-fruitarian-diet-what-went-wrong https://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2013/02/07/as... Fruit heavy diets are very hard on the pancreas. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/02/11/all-fruit-diet.aspx https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/02/...