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George Holtz codes 11 hours straight live stream [video]

42 points by rick22 8y ago

_iyig 8y ago
Typo in title. “Holtz” should be “Hotz”
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stefan_ 8y ago
I'm concerned he got to about hour 10 until considering datasets (=video) with validated camera calibration information. I think the video ended before he applied any of it, though..
kopo 8y ago
This is really cool. Maybe it's my age but I am slightly out of the loop when it comes to dev's livestreaming. Didn't realize it was a thing. For some reason, it's reminding me of SOLE (self organized learning environment) classrooms being tried out in the UK. Put a BIG problem on the board. Get a couple kids to sit in front of a SINGLE large screen and work it out. Provide internet access. And the teacher just hangs in the background not teaching, but observing/guiding/keeping things on track. This is taking it to another level with the number of people watching/learning/contributing etc.
googleyAnna 8y ago
Super cool!
lostmsu 8y ago
Sorry to be holy-wary, but that was outrageous: just watched random pieces of that video until found one where he actually codes, basically vim Python editing. So I opened somewhere around this moment: https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039 https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039 And, first, he copy-pastes some code, and then spends about a minute figuring if he got tabs converted to spaces, including googling a vim command. Then he proceeds to make a loop over some collection next to the loop over an adjacent collection. And he makes that stupid mistake of renaming a variable of the loop, but no renaming in the body. Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.
- module0000 8y ago
  >> Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim. I'm a zealot, and it's a waste of my time to try and convince someone to use vim. If someone is trying to sell you on using vim, remind them of the code they should be writing instead of flapping their lips at you. The "you gotta use vim!" folks are usually half-adept hacks. They don't quite understand it as fully as they feel they should, so instead they try to get good vibes by convincing you to make the same decisions they did. disclaimer: 20-year vi/vim user - could care less whether anyone else uses it or not.
  - lostmsu 8y ago
    You know, someone's wrong on the Internet :-D Also, George Hotz is a famous hacker, maybe not Carmack or Linus, but definitely somewhere on that scale. Even that video shows an interesting work. Also, I used `zealot` in the sense of advertisement, not normal passion.
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- hackermailman 8y ago
  cmu pushes vim in most of their courses, all the TAs use it too that's why you aren't seeing glorious emacs hacking on cruise control by GeoHot
  - jstewartmobile 8y ago
    Geohot is normally an emacs user?
- koonsolo 8y ago
  The best article on VIM is "Why, oh WHY, do those #?@! nutheads use vi?" http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html I myself use vi modes inside IDE's, and can't be happier.
whatshisface 8y ago
Does anyone know who this guy is, what he was doing, and why he was livestreaming it?
- sosense 8y ago
  Guy who stole jailbreaks from IRC and went public with them, falsely claiming he created the hacks. Creator of "live hack" youtube videos he later admitted were scripted and fake. Founder of ridiculous self driving car company that never had a chance of going anywhere. He's a charlatan.
  - lupinglade 8y ago
    This is partially true. He did contribute but he was certainly not the only one. He seems to get all of the credit for the hard work of many.
- arthurcolle 8y ago
  Based on the video playing on his screen it looks like he is working on parts of the autonomous driving system, most likely related to the startup that he was Head of Research for, called comma.ai IIRC, he + the CEO raised a bunch of money to work on his own self-driving car designs, which culminated in a prototype that wasn't as feature-rich as some of the better capitalized players, which had been demoed a few years back in limited capacity over the last few years. He just got kicked out, as reported in TC on the 18th of last month though, so maybe he's making his own new thing. Search on YT for comma.ai and you'll see some good content. [ edit: past tense, was Head of Research for. ]
  - sharcerer 8y ago
    Who said he got kicked out? He kicked himself out of CEO role. He's still at comma
    - arthurcolle 8y ago
      Didn't realize, thanks for the clarity
palerdot 8y ago
Can someone correct the title with 'George Hotz'? Right now, the spelling is wrong and kind of misleading.
rick22 8y ago
Op of the thread here. Could some who has the authorization to change the title of the post please change "Holtz" to "Hotz". If you are reading this apologize "Hotz".
singularity2001 8y ago
So much keyboard trial and error, hit and miss;) Chaotic minds are the most creative!

42 points by rick22 8y ago

_iyig 8y ago

Typo in title. “Holtz” should be “Hotz”

deleted 8y ago
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stefan_ 8y ago

I'm concerned he got to about hour 10 until considering datasets (=video) with validated camera calibration information. I think the video ended before he applied any of it, though..

kopo 8y ago

This is really cool. Maybe it's my age but I am slightly out of the loop when it comes to dev's livestreaming. Didn't realize it was a thing. For some reason, it's reminding me of SOLE (self organized learning environment) classrooms being tried out in the UK. Put a BIG problem on the board. Get a couple kids to sit in front of a SINGLE large screen and work it out. Provide internet access. And the teacher just hangs in the background not teaching, but observing/guiding/keeping things on track. This is taking it to another level with the number of people watching/learning/contributing etc.

googleyAnna 8y ago

Super cool!

lostmsu 8y ago

Sorry to be holy-wary, but that was outrageous: just watched random pieces of that video until found one where he actually codes, basically vim Python editing. So I opened somewhere around this moment: https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039 https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039 And, first, he copy-pastes some code, and then spends about a minute figuring if he got tabs converted to spaces, including googling a vim command. Then he proceeds to make a loop over some collection next to the loop over an adjacent collection. And he makes that stupid mistake of renaming a variable of the loop, but no renaming in the body. Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.

module0000 8y ago
>> Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim. I'm a zealot, and it's a waste of my time to try and convince someone to use vim. If someone is trying to sell you on using vim, remind them of the code they should be writing instead of flapping their lips at you. The "you gotta use vim!" folks are usually half-adept hacks. They don't quite understand it as fully as they feel they should, so instead they try to get good vibes by convincing you to make the same decisions they did. disclaimer: 20-year vi/vim user - could care less whether anyone else uses it or not.
- lostmsu 8y ago
  You know, someone's wrong on the Internet :-D Also, George Hotz is a famous hacker, maybe not Carmack or Linus, but definitely somewhere on that scale. Even that video shows an interesting work. Also, I used `zealot` in the sense of advertisement, not normal passion.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
hackermailman 8y ago
cmu pushes vim in most of their courses, all the TAs use it too that's why you aren't seeing glorious emacs hacking on cruise control by GeoHot
- jstewartmobile 8y ago
  Geohot is normally an emacs user?
koonsolo 8y ago
The best article on VIM is "Why, oh WHY, do those #?@! nutheads use vi?" http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html I myself use vi modes inside IDE's, and can't be happier.

whatshisface 8y ago

Does anyone know who this guy is, what he was doing, and why he was livestreaming it?

sosense 8y ago
Guy who stole jailbreaks from IRC and went public with them, falsely claiming he created the hacks. Creator of "live hack" youtube videos he later admitted were scripted and fake. Founder of ridiculous self driving car company that never had a chance of going anywhere. He's a charlatan.
- lupinglade 8y ago
  This is partially true. He did contribute but he was certainly not the only one. He seems to get all of the credit for the hard work of many.
arthurcolle 8y ago
Based on the video playing on his screen it looks like he is working on parts of the autonomous driving system, most likely related to the startup that he was Head of Research for, called comma.ai IIRC, he + the CEO raised a bunch of money to work on his own self-driving car designs, which culminated in a prototype that wasn't as feature-rich as some of the better capitalized players, which had been demoed a few years back in limited capacity over the last few years. He just got kicked out, as reported in TC on the 18th of last month though, so maybe he's making his own new thing. Search on YT for comma.ai and you'll see some good content. [ edit: past tense, was Head of Research for. ]
- sharcerer 8y ago
  Who said he got kicked out? He kicked himself out of CEO role. He's still at comma
  - arthurcolle 8y ago
    Didn't realize, thanks for the clarity

palerdot 8y ago

Can someone correct the title with 'George Hotz'? Right now, the spelling is wrong and kind of misleading.

rick22 8y ago

Op of the thread here. Could some who has the authorization to change the title of the post please change "Holtz" to "Hotz". If you are reading this apologize "Hotz".

singularity2001 8y ago

So much keyboard trial and error, hit and miss;) Chaotic minds are the most creative!