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We don't replace ads on publisher sites without that publisher as partner; they get 70% of the gross revenue, user gets 15%. No point repeating something you h

We don't replace ads on publisher sites without that publisher as partner; they get 70% of the gross revenue, user gets 15%. No point repeating something you heard a while ago from the NAA when they wrote a "Cease and Desist" letter to us that did not contain those words (because we weren't doing anything to cease or desist). All our opt-in models require consent. User-private ads go in user-owned channels (notifications and tabs), not in publisher inventory, if the user opts in. User gets 70%.

lern_too_spel 8y ago
You've given them the choice of not monetizing their content or paying you. It's the slimy Mafia business model. There is nothing decentralized about this.
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  The data model is already more decentralized than any blockchain: 430K user wallets with user data only on device. All ad blockers reduce "monetization" of content by ads. That is a primal design point of web standards, and a right of all users per case law. The only Mafia model in ad blocking is the "acceptable ads" shakedown where Google pays 8 figures to Eyeo to let some ads through. This is also why AdBlock Plus disables EasyPrivacy by default (you have to turn it on; if you do, that breaks the whitelisted ad tracking/confirmation). But I see from your recent HN posts that you are trollish, so I'll stop here and hope this reply is of benefit to others.
joshuamorton 8y ago
Do you have a list of publisher partners anywhere?
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  Over 23,000 creators verified but we do not list without consent. You can see verified status in the Payments panel in settings after taking a free token grant to fund your wallet.
  - BrendanEich 8y ago
    From user tweets, people notice washingtonpost.com, theguardian.com, vice.com, other bigs have verfied. From our own announcements, Dow Jones Media Group, Town Square Media, and more to come.
    - BrendanEich 8y ago
      https://batgrowth.com/publishers https://batgrowth.com/publishers - someone built a scraper, code is on GitHub.

lern_too_spel 8y ago

You've given them the choice of not monetizing their content or paying you. It's the slimy Mafia business model. There is nothing decentralized about this.

BrendanEich 8y ago
The data model is already more decentralized than any blockchain: 430K user wallets with user data only on device. All ad blockers reduce "monetization" of content by ads. That is a primal design point of web standards, and a right of all users per case law. The only Mafia model in ad blocking is the "acceptable ads" shakedown where Google pays 8 figures to Eyeo to let some ads through. This is also why AdBlock Plus disables EasyPrivacy by default (you have to turn it on; if you do, that breaks the whitelisted ad tracking/confirmation). But I see from your recent HN posts that you are trollish, so I'll stop here and hope this reply is of benefit to others.

joshuamorton 8y ago

Do you have a list of publisher partners anywhere?

BrendanEich 8y ago
Over 23,000 creators verified but we do not list without consent. You can see verified status in the Payments panel in settings after taking a free token grant to fund your wallet.
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  From user tweets, people notice washingtonpost.com, theguardian.com, vice.com, other bigs have verfied. From our own announcements, Dow Jones Media Group, Town Square Media, and more to come.
  - BrendanEich 8y ago
    https://batgrowth.com/publishers https://batgrowth.com/publishers - someone built a scraper, code is on GitHub.