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+1 On android it is essentially identical to Chrome in every way apart from the Brave icon next to the address bar that controls the blocking. I really like i

+1 On android it is essentially identical to Chrome in every way apart from the Brave icon next to the address bar that controls the blocking. I really like it. I tried the desktop version though and did not like the look and feel of the UI - tabs under the address bar etc. Felt like it was a slavish copy of Safari and I did not like it. Much prefer Firefox on desktop. I have also learnt of Brave's plans to replace a sites ads with its own ads which I do not like. Will move off of Brave on mobile when Firefox is workable on android (last time I tried it was awful, clunky and slow on android).

matthberg 8y ago
I've been using Firefox on mobile and have no issues with it. I'd try it out again now, with quantum under the hood it's purring along smoothly for me. Also (to anyone who doesn't know) you can install Firefox addons on Firefox mobile, so uBlock Origin works (can personally confirm it) to block ads.
- Sytten 8y ago
  I have a low budget smartphone and its simply not usable. I switched to firefox focus which runs very smoothly, but it has its disadvantages too.
  - BrendanEich 8y ago
    Interested in whether Brave works well for you. Also phone details if you can share. Thanks.
    - Sytten 8y ago
      Idol 3 5.5, it works well.
BrendanEich 8y ago
Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18155960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18155960. No ads via Brave unless you opt in. Consent required by all parties involved in any of the optional token economics. Try https://brave.com/download-dev https://brave.com/download-dev for better desktop browser that is coming to stable very soon. Almost all chromium extensions work - any using Google accounts/sync do not.
- HBlix 8y ago
  Opting-in by default is refreshing to see, and offering to share some portion of the spoils more equitably is too. Still, I fundamentally dislike advertising and find that content supported by it is often grossly inferior to other content. I’m not convinced that the middle path here is the right one, rather than evangelizing ad-blocking and forcing the internet to adopt alternative revenue streams. Slapping an ICO on the problem is certainly a good way to get people invested in defending Brave, but I’m not convinced that it has any lasting value. Cutting advertisers off at the knees does, and as a stance it isn’t subject to being degraded through its relationship to advertisers and their money.
  - BrendanEich 8y ago
    If you dislike ads, then don't opt in. You are welcome to use baseline Brave and just block. But why comment as if you mean to tell others what to do? If you think the web can do without $100B in US on digital this year, ~$250B globally that goes through ads, then please demonstrate replacement funding models, or just show some evidence of any that could scale that big. We can't count ads out, but by lifting 3rd party to 1st ad context (avoids brand safety and reverse: bad ads on good content), aligning interests, and cutting out all the trackers and other intermediaries that evolved because browsers were passive slaves to the system, we hope to more than replace the value of our users to publishers that was "lost" via our users blocking by default.
    - HBlix 8y ago
      I think the web as it exists today is bloated with “content” that could never survive without that money, and the loss of that “content” would be a gain for the web. I’m hard-presses to think of many worthwhile examples of ad-supported content; certainly HN here doesn’t take that path.
      - skinnymuch 8y ago
        You could argue HN being an advertising platform for YC and certain YC posts being inserted early on like hiring posts are ads. So using HN isn’t a good example at all.

matthberg 8y ago

I've been using Firefox on mobile and have no issues with it. I'd try it out again now, with quantum under the hood it's purring along smoothly for me. Also (to anyone who doesn't know) you can install Firefox addons on Firefox mobile, so uBlock Origin works (can personally confirm it) to block ads.

Sytten 8y ago
I have a low budget smartphone and its simply not usable. I switched to firefox focus which runs very smoothly, but it has its disadvantages too.
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  Interested in whether Brave works well for you. Also phone details if you can share. Thanks.
  - Sytten 8y ago
    Idol 3 5.5, it works well.

BrendanEich 8y ago

Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18155960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18155960. No ads via Brave unless you opt in. Consent required by all parties involved in any of the optional token economics. Try https://brave.com/download-dev https://brave.com/download-dev for better desktop browser that is coming to stable very soon. Almost all chromium extensions work - any using Google accounts/sync do not.

HBlix 8y ago
Opting-in by default is refreshing to see, and offering to share some portion of the spoils more equitably is too. Still, I fundamentally dislike advertising and find that content supported by it is often grossly inferior to other content. I’m not convinced that the middle path here is the right one, rather than evangelizing ad-blocking and forcing the internet to adopt alternative revenue streams. Slapping an ICO on the problem is certainly a good way to get people invested in defending Brave, but I’m not convinced that it has any lasting value. Cutting advertisers off at the knees does, and as a stance it isn’t subject to being degraded through its relationship to advertisers and their money.
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  If you dislike ads, then don't opt in. You are welcome to use baseline Brave and just block. But why comment as if you mean to tell others what to do? If you think the web can do without $100B in US on digital this year, ~$250B globally that goes through ads, then please demonstrate replacement funding models, or just show some evidence of any that could scale that big. We can't count ads out, but by lifting 3rd party to 1st ad context (avoids brand safety and reverse: bad ads on good content), aligning interests, and cutting out all the trackers and other intermediaries that evolved because browsers were passive slaves to the system, we hope to more than replace the value of our users to publishers that was "lost" via our users blocking by default.
  - HBlix 8y ago
    I think the web as it exists today is bloated with “content” that could never survive without that money, and the loss of that “content” would be a gain for the web. I’m hard-presses to think of many worthwhile examples of ad-supported content; certainly HN here doesn’t take that path.
    - skinnymuch 8y ago
      You could argue HN being an advertising platform for YC and certain YC posts being inserted early on like hiring posts are ads. So using HN isn’t a good example at all.