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Yes, MS seems to believe having a profitable store and killing win32 everywhere are both entangled. But Steam has proven them wrong. Win32 is still strong and

by Shorel 8y ago

Yes, MS seems to believe having a profitable store and killing win32 everywhere are both entangled. But Steam has proven them wrong. Win32 is still strong and Steam makes millions.

nashashmi 8y ago
Windows 7 and Vista did not get a ported version of Windows store nor a ported version of uwp apps. While win32 can do both platforms. That was what killed the windows store. Windows 8 1st edition was just a start menu with a uwp focus, with a desktop as a third class citizen. When win8 start menu with uwp could have been offered as a single app for Windows 7 platform. That would have been a great buzz pavong the way for Windows phone and windows rt.
- Shorel 8y ago
  The strength of windows market-share lies in the backwards compatibility with win32. Users don't want uwp or whatever new stack MS wants to impose. They want continuous access to their existing purchases of win32 apps. That MS calls win32 'legacy' matters very little.
  - vetinari 8y ago
    This. Win32 lives because there are millenia of man-hours invested into Win32 applications. If one day Win32 would disaapear, they would be not ported to UWP or other framework of the day. Whey would be ported to the Web. But while Win32 lives, the cheapest path is to maintain them as Win32.
int_19h 8y ago
That lesson was learned. Since two years ago, Microsoft Store can (and does!) have Win32 apps in it. At the most basic level, it can be just a simple download link, so the Store is only used for discovery. But you can also "package" desktop apps so that they can actually be downloaded and installed from the store, as well. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/desktop-to-uwp-distribute https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/desktop... For example: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s

by Shorel 8y ago

Yes, MS seems to believe having a profitable store and killing win32 everywhere are both entangled. But Steam has proven them wrong. Win32 is still strong and Steam makes millions.

nashashmi 8y ago

Windows 7 and Vista did not get a ported version of Windows store nor a ported version of uwp apps. While win32 can do both platforms. That was what killed the windows store. Windows 8 1st edition was just a start menu with a uwp focus, with a desktop as a third class citizen. When win8 start menu with uwp could have been offered as a single app for Windows 7 platform. That would have been a great buzz pavong the way for Windows phone and windows rt.

Shorel 8y ago
The strength of windows market-share lies in the backwards compatibility with win32. Users don't want uwp or whatever new stack MS wants to impose. They want continuous access to their existing purchases of win32 apps. That MS calls win32 'legacy' matters very little.
- vetinari 8y ago
  This. Win32 lives because there are millenia of man-hours invested into Win32 applications. If one day Win32 would disaapear, they would be not ported to UWP or other framework of the day. Whey would be ported to the Web. But while Win32 lives, the cheapest path is to maintain them as Win32.

int_19h 8y ago

That lesson was learned. Since two years ago, Microsoft Store can (and does!) have Win32 apps in it. At the most basic level, it can be just a simple download link, so the Store is only used for discovery. But you can also "package" desktop apps so that they can actually be downloaded and installed from the store, as well. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/desktop-to-uwp-distribute https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/desktop... For example: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s