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Whoever signed off on WP7 sealed Microsoft‘s fate in mobile. Always easy in hindsight but I remember lots of angry articles by developers from back then - the s

Whoever signed off on WP7 sealed Microsoft‘s fate in mobile. Always easy in hindsight but I remember lots of angry articles by developers from back then - the signs were clear.

asveikau 8y ago
I often felt they saw Apple being successful while being demanding of app devs, and erroneously thought that it either didn't matter or even more extreme that there was a causal relationship there. They didn't realize the need to counterbalance that arrogant attitude with better execution than they delivered. By this I mean only the app platform. WP7's built-in UI and apps got lots of praise for being buttery smooth because they weren't using .NET or Silverlight, they had a private ui framework.
- TomMarius 8y ago
  I had HTC HD2 and I sadly don't remember WP7 being smooth at all.
  - abawany 8y ago
    I had one too and as I recall, the highest OS one could run on it was WM 6.5, which was a completely different beast than W7+. I remember that the best improvement I made to this HD2 was install an early version of Android on it a few years later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_HD2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_HD2
    - asveikau 8y ago
      I thought there was a hack to put 7 on the hd2. Unofficially of course. There was also the hd7 which was a very similar device.
    - TomMarius 8y ago
      Yeah you're right, I confused the versions. I had Android on it as well, good times. Bought Samsung Galaxy W after that (yeah, W!).
godzillabrennus 8y ago
The people behind Windows Mobile were beyond arrogant. They even held a funeral for iPhone: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-celebrates-windows-phone-7-with-mock-iphone-funeral/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-celebrates-windows-p...
- muststopmyths 8y ago
  I wish people would stop repeating this BS. It was an internal ship party for WP employees. Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. As it should be.
  - ionised 8y ago
    > Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. As it should be. Why?
    - muststopmyths 8y ago
      Why should it be common ? What good is a morale event for a team where everyone talks about how far behind they are ?
      - int_19h 8y ago
        Maybe not talk about either then?
    - maimeowmeow 8y ago
      I've worked at places that are traditional soul sucking enterprises, and people generally still joke around.
  - _pmf_ 8y ago
    > Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. Where I walk, the only trash talking is about management and how fucking far behind we're lagging re. the competition. Burying the competitor's product is narcissistic and pathetic. Maybe this had been ordered from above.

Whoever signed off on WP7 sealed Microsoft‘s fate in mobile. Always easy in hindsight but I remember lots of angry articles by developers from back then - the signs were clear.

asveikau 8y ago

I often felt they saw Apple being successful while being demanding of app devs, and erroneously thought that it either didn't matter or even more extreme that there was a causal relationship there. They didn't realize the need to counterbalance that arrogant attitude with better execution than they delivered. By this I mean only the app platform. WP7's built-in UI and apps got lots of praise for being buttery smooth because they weren't using .NET or Silverlight, they had a private ui framework.

TomMarius 8y ago
I had HTC HD2 and I sadly don't remember WP7 being smooth at all.
- abawany 8y ago
  I had one too and as I recall, the highest OS one could run on it was WM 6.5, which was a completely different beast than W7+. I remember that the best improvement I made to this HD2 was install an early version of Android on it a few years later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_HD2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_HD2
  - asveikau 8y ago
    I thought there was a hack to put 7 on the hd2. Unofficially of course. There was also the hd7 which was a very similar device.
  - TomMarius 8y ago
    Yeah you're right, I confused the versions. I had Android on it as well, good times. Bought Samsung Galaxy W after that (yeah, W!).

godzillabrennus 8y ago

The people behind Windows Mobile were beyond arrogant. They even held a funeral for iPhone: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-celebrates-windows-phone-7-with-mock-iphone-funeral/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-celebrates-windows-p...

muststopmyths 8y ago
I wish people would stop repeating this BS. It was an internal ship party for WP employees. Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. As it should be.
- ionised 8y ago
  > Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. As it should be. Why?
  - muststopmyths 8y ago
    Why should it be common ? What good is a morale event for a team where everyone talks about how far behind they are ?
    - int_19h 8y ago
      Maybe not talk about either then?
  - maimeowmeow 8y ago
    I've worked at places that are traditional soul sucking enterprises, and people generally still joke around.
- _pmf_ 8y ago
  > Hyperbole and trash-talking is common at such things. Where I walk, the only trash talking is about management and how fucking far behind we're lagging re. the competition. Burying the competitor's product is narcissistic and pathetic. Maybe this had been ordered from above.