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Insurance firms send a clear message- fuck with us and we completely ruin you. And before anybody downvotes me- please inform yourself- not a single person had

Insurance firms send a clear message- fuck with us and we completely ruin you. And before anybody downvotes me- please inform yourself- not a single person had to pay a penny more than what they had to pay before the price increase, except the insurance firms.

brianberns 8y ago
You realize that insurance companies pass their costs to their customers, right?
- JetSpiegel 8y ago
  I thought the point of insurance companies was that the customers wouldn't pay the full cost.
  - paulryanrogers 8y ago
    It's passed on in aggregate, spreading the burden. Except now the burden gets heavier for all because some companies find a way to leverage the most vulnerable.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    So, there is such a thing as a free lunch?
    - natalyarostova 8y ago
      The funny thing is you're being glib, but Markowitz literally is quoted as saying diversification is the closest thing there is in finance to a free lunch.
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        Diversification? An insurance policy is a wager made with one party on a series of closely related events. There's nothing diverse about it, from the consumer standpoint. Some diversification is possible for the insurance firm itself, although there are limits to that so most firms purchase reinsurance.
        FabHK 8y ago
        Of course it's diversification. Instead of being short your own illness only, you enter a swap where you receive coverage for your own illness (thus being flat on that clump risk), and pay a small floating leg covering (a small proportion of) everyone's illness. You have much smaller variance, but the same expected return (minus administration costs) - just like any diversification.
  - toast0 8y ago
    The point of insurance is that the customers pay the full cost. (And a little extra). It's just that customers share the full cost of all the customers, not their individual costs.
  - lordlimecat 8y ago
    The point of insurance companies is to hedge against financial scenarios that you cannot otherwise plan for. There's no world in which adding a middleman for a regular and ongoing service lowers the overall cost of that service.
intended 8y ago
Customers definitely had to. Here’s vanity fair, with their profile on him. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/martin-shkreli-pharmaceuticals-ceo-interview https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/martin-shkreli-pharm... He went to jail for securities fraud. If he is as smart as he and others say he is, then his culpability is absolute. I can be sympathetic, but not willfully blind to actual fault.

brianberns 8y ago

You realize that insurance companies pass their costs to their customers, right?

JetSpiegel 8y ago
I thought the point of insurance companies was that the customers wouldn't pay the full cost.
- paulryanrogers 8y ago
  It's passed on in aggregate, spreading the burden. Except now the burden gets heavier for all because some companies find a way to leverage the most vulnerable.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  So, there is such a thing as a free lunch?
  - natalyarostova 8y ago
    The funny thing is you're being glib, but Markowitz literally is quoted as saying diversification is the closest thing there is in finance to a free lunch.
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      Diversification? An insurance policy is a wager made with one party on a series of closely related events. There's nothing diverse about it, from the consumer standpoint. Some diversification is possible for the insurance firm itself, although there are limits to that so most firms purchase reinsurance.
      - FabHK 8y ago
        Of course it's diversification. Instead of being short your own illness only, you enter a swap where you receive coverage for your own illness (thus being flat on that clump risk), and pay a small floating leg covering (a small proportion of) everyone's illness. You have much smaller variance, but the same expected return (minus administration costs) - just like any diversification.
- toast0 8y ago
  The point of insurance is that the customers pay the full cost. (And a little extra). It's just that customers share the full cost of all the customers, not their individual costs.
- lordlimecat 8y ago
  The point of insurance companies is to hedge against financial scenarios that you cannot otherwise plan for. There's no world in which adding a middleman for a regular and ongoing service lowers the overall cost of that service.

intended 8y ago

Customers definitely had to. Here’s vanity fair, with their profile on him. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/martin-shkreli-pharmaceuticals-ceo-interview https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/martin-shkreli-pharm... He went to jail for securities fraud. If he is as smart as he and others say he is, then his culpability is absolute. I can be sympathetic, but not willfully blind to actual fault.