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Google are an incredibly sinister privately run surveillance system, and are pushing AMP to EEE the web, but you know, MS are still the bad guys, because we’re

by jf- 8y ago

Google are an incredibly sinister privately run surveillance system, and are pushing AMP to EEE the web, but you know, MS are still the bad guys, because we’re stuck in 2003.

c487bd62 8y ago
> because we’re stuck in 2003 It's called learning a lesson (repeatedly). Don't trust Google. And don't trust Microsoft, now or in 2003. Don't trust companies, period. Always have an exit plan and try not to get locked inside their boxes if possible. These companies exist to make money, so power and control is what they want. That doesn't mean we can't appreciate good products or initiatives, just keep in mind that the boot and the giving hand belong to the same entity.
code_duck 8y ago
Do you have some reason to believe that Microsoft wouldn’t tie into or conduct the same level of surveillance if they were in google’s current market position?
vetinari 8y ago
Microsoft introduced privacy-disrespecting "features" into their products long after they were established on the market and their users couldn't switch. Google did that with a newly introduced products, which you could simply not start using. So yes, Microsoft are still the bad guys.
AnonymousPlanet 8y ago
Microsoft sell an incredibly sinister surveillance system. But it's impressive how they manage to market it as a Good Thing to companies. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-windows-diagnostic-data-in-your-organization https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-w... This, the fact that their technology spreads like a cancer through an organisation (through dependencies), and the extent to which corporations are completely at the mercy of their byzantine licensing system has often made me wonder why Redmond hasn't been bombed by some military yet.

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Google are an incredibly sinister privately run surveillance system, and are pushing AMP to EEE the web, but you know, MS are still the bad guys, because we’re

by jf- 8y ago

Google are an incredibly sinister privately run surveillance system, and are pushing AMP to EEE the web, but you know, MS are still the bad guys, because we’re stuck in 2003.

c487bd62 8y ago
> because we’re stuck in 2003 It's called learning a lesson (repeatedly). Don't trust Google. And don't trust Microsoft, now or in 2003. Don't trust companies, period. Always have an exit plan and try not to get locked inside their boxes if possible. These companies exist to make money, so power and control is what they want. That doesn't mean we can't appreciate good products or initiatives, just keep in mind that the boot and the giving hand belong to the same entity.
code_duck 8y ago
Do you have some reason to believe that Microsoft wouldn’t tie into or conduct the same level of surveillance if they were in google’s current market position?
vetinari 8y ago
Microsoft introduced privacy-disrespecting "features" into their products long after they were established on the market and their users couldn't switch. Google did that with a newly introduced products, which you could simply not start using. So yes, Microsoft are still the bad guys.
AnonymousPlanet 8y ago
Microsoft sell an incredibly sinister surveillance system. But it's impressive how they manage to market it as a Good Thing to companies. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-windows-diagnostic-data-in-your-organization https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-w... This, the fact that their technology spreads like a cancer through an organisation (through dependencies), and the extent to which corporations are completely at the mercy of their byzantine licensing system has often made me wonder why Redmond hasn't been bombed by some military yet.