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> he exposed a journal for publishing something the editors didn't even understand This is your assumption. In fact they understood perfectly what the paper me
by Udik 8y ago
> he exposed a journal for publishing something the editors didn't even understand
This is your assumption. In fact they understood perfectly what the paper meant and that's why they published it. But because the paper was effectively constructed as something without meaning, Sokal managed to prove that their perception of meaning is a delusion.
Same thing has been done here: the editors of the journals found perfectly reasonable something that was ridiculous and absurd by construction, thus proving that the sense of reasonabless and soundness is lost to them.
- fenomas 8y ago> editors of the journals found perfectly reasonable something that was ridiculous and absurd by construction I understand your point, but my argument here is that the hoax papers cannot reasonably be called "absurd by construction". The authors started out with that goal, but their initial papers apparently all got rejected so they iteratively toned down the absurdity until the papers got published. That's effectively "publishable by construction", isn't it?
- Udik 8y agoThey still sound pretty absurd to me.
- Beldin 8y agoIf the same thing has been done here, what's the point? Sokal already made that point long ago. There is no academic goal in repeating that experiment. Moreover, repeating it 20-fold? That's not even ethical - either one success proves your point, or were going to need a control group and rigorous methodology. Since the trio reject the notion of control groups, they should have understood that getting more than one paper accepted was not furthering their experiment, only their ego.
- Udik 8y agoStrange argument. As far as I know, they submitted the papers to different journals. Sokal's hoax targeted again a different journal in a different field twenty years ago. Of course the results are specific to the journal and the discipline- but even in the case of multiple papers accepted by the same journal, it would just reinforce the result.