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Also demographics. All Tesla cars (at least the ones with autopilot) are less than 5 years old, and typically driven by a subset of the national demographic due

Also demographics. All Tesla cars (at least the ones with autopilot) are less than 5 years old, and typically driven by a subset of the national demographic due to their price. But they are comparing crash rates of ALL cars, including 30 year old clunkers with few safety features. I wonder how the numbers would differ if they were to, for example, only compare to cars of similar years, or filter so the comparison is of the same demographic, or at the very minimum compared to cars of the same class/price. With all that said, I love what Tesla is doing to advance safety features and technology. But these kinds of numbers leave a bad taste in my mouth.

prostoalex 8y ago
But the safety features that would prevent a collision (lane control, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring) are still not prevalent in mainstream vehicles though. Seems that most cars' safety packages are built around mitigating a crash - better bumpers, more airbags.
- gamblor956 8y ago
  To be fair, these features don't appear to be doing a very good job of preventing collisions for Tesla vehicles either.
- achamayou 8y ago
  They are quite widespread in cars that are comparably priced with Teslas.
- threeseed 8y ago
  > lane control, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring Not sure about the US but here in Australia at least these features are available in some very low end cars. And quite widespread in most cars sold today.
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woodandsteel 8y ago
You and wcoenen make some good points. That said, Tesla's safety report is a vast improvement over the highly biased reporting on this issue we have been seeing in the media.
kire2345 8y ago
This article apparantly shows that fatality rates of Tesla are worse than of other luxury car makers: https://medium.com/@MidwesternHedgi/teslas-driver-fatality-rate-is-more-than-triple-that-of-luxury-cars-and-likely-even-higher-433670ddde17 https://medium.com/@MidwesternHedgi/teslas-driver-fatality-r... I am pro Tesla but I don't get why they don't compare apples to apples. As if Tesla doesn't know this? And if they know then don't try to screw the comparision in your favor so that you seem better then you actually are.

prostoalex 8y ago

But the safety features that would prevent a collision (lane control, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring) are still not prevalent in mainstream vehicles though. Seems that most cars' safety packages are built around mitigating a crash - better bumpers, more airbags.

gamblor956 8y ago
To be fair, these features don't appear to be doing a very good job of preventing collisions for Tesla vehicles either.
achamayou 8y ago
They are quite widespread in cars that are comparably priced with Teslas.
threeseed 8y ago
> lane control, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring Not sure about the US but here in Australia at least these features are available in some very low end cars. And quite widespread in most cars sold today.
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woodandsteel 8y ago

You and wcoenen make some good points. That said, Tesla's safety report is a vast improvement over the highly biased reporting on this issue we have been seeing in the media.

kire2345 8y ago

This article apparantly shows that fatality rates of Tesla are worse than of other luxury car makers: https://medium.com/@MidwesternHedgi/teslas-driver-fatality-rate-is-more-than-triple-that-of-luxury-cars-and-likely-even-higher-433670ddde17 https://medium.com/@MidwesternHedgi/teslas-driver-fatality-r... I am pro Tesla but I don't get why they don't compare apples to apples. As if Tesla doesn't know this? And if they know then don't try to screw the comparision in your favor so that you seem better then you actually are.