I am old enough to remember that the supreme court choose Bush as president -- that was an aweful moment (and would have been so if it was the other way around

I am old enough to remember that the supreme court choose Bush as president -- that was an aweful moment (and would have been so if it was the other way around too). A conspiracy by one side to harm the other, that is politics. As for civility, you can argue that but in my mind that civility ended with the candidacy of Trump. I hold the belief that civility is overrated though, I would much rather have them be honest than civil.