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Do you know how many updates have deleted some people's data permanently? It was one of the top call drivers almost every update back in windows XP days. There'

Do you know how many updates have deleted some people's data permanently? It was one of the top call drivers almost every update back in windows XP days. There's a good reason that backup ALL important files is a mantra among people who know what they're doing. No matter the OS, no matter the hardware, stuff WILL get deleted. The UI is fine. Don't use onedrive or cortana, turned them off with one click and they've been off now for years. Not sure how 1 click every few years is a problem. And no idea what you mean about the swipey stuff (I use a mouse? I only click things? idk) but yes tablets are very popular these days and microsoft does have to accommodate them. Of course? And what do you mean by fix the OS? I use O&O because I like what it does, but when I use a Win10 computer at work or at school it's not a big deal that it's not done. I don't feel like I'm working on a 'broken' OS out of the box. And if you're ever upset about Candy Crush advertisements on Win10..... try installing ANY app on MacOS (which heavily relies on the app store unlike win10) and see how many advertisements you run into before you're done. Yes everything you've mentioned does seem like a rather minor gripe. Like some of them (onedrive and cortana) literally 1 click gripes.

SECProto 8y ago
Not OP but: The "Try OneDrive!" And XBox Live shortcuts (and others maybe) in my start menu cannot be removed without using the command line. Deleting users data after an update which they have no choice but to install (and not even a choice of when to install it) is, in fact, different than losing data after a user chooses to install an update. Shrugging and saying "they should've had a backup" is the epitome of entitled. The only version of Windows 10 that performs correctly for a power user is the LTSB. Which is only officially available for large companies. You can actually control what the OS does, and when it does it (same as every other professional windows OS that I used). And saying that having advertisements in the start menu out of the box isn't bad because a competitor has ads during installation... I don't know what to say. I guess, I thought I was allowed to want my OS to get better over time? Compared to previous versions, as well as competitors. There was quite a fuss about Xiaomi having ads in the settings app, pretty similar.
wlll 8y ago
> Do you know how many updates have deleted some people's data permanently? One more than should have happened? > It was one of the top call drivers almost every update back in windows XP days. So you're saying that Microsoft had form for this and let another one through? That's pretty bad. > There's a good reason that backup ALL important files is a mantra among people who know what they're doing. Sure, I have at least two backups of my machine using different technologies and to different locations (and yet somehow OS X, or linux for that matter, has never actually deleted my files), I'm a techie, but most people don't because most people don't know what they're doing, and puffing out your chest and claiming technical superiority isn't going to help those people. As someone else pointed out, it's entitled. > No matter the OS, no matter the hardware, stuff WILL get deleted. Apparently if you use Windows it will. > The UI The UI is not fine, it's crap. It's been infected with tablety nonesense, and as I use a Mouse too it jars. > tablets are very popular these days and microsoft does have to accommodate them. Of course? That doesn't mean bits of my desktop OS needs to look like a tablet. > And if you're ever upset about Candy Crush advertisements on Win10..... try installing ANY app on MacOS (which heavily relies on the app store unlike win10) and see how many advertisements you run into before you're done. Of course there's some adverts in the App store, it's a store, and I expect to see them the couple of times a year I actually use it. But day to day, when I turn on or log in to my machine, it's just that, my machine. Not someone elses machine that is a funnel for adverts.

SECProto 8y ago

Not OP but: The "Try OneDrive!" And XBox Live shortcuts (and others maybe) in my start menu cannot be removed without using the command line. Deleting users data after an update which they have no choice but to install (and not even a choice of when to install it) is, in fact, different than losing data after a user chooses to install an update. Shrugging and saying "they should've had a backup" is the epitome of entitled. The only version of Windows 10 that performs correctly for a power user is the LTSB. Which is only officially available for large companies. You can actually control what the OS does, and when it does it (same as every other professional windows OS that I used). And saying that having advertisements in the start menu out of the box isn't bad because a competitor has ads during installation... I don't know what to say. I guess, I thought I was allowed to want my OS to get better over time? Compared to previous versions, as well as competitors. There was quite a fuss about Xiaomi having ads in the settings app, pretty similar.

wlll 8y ago

> Do you know how many updates have deleted some people's data permanently? One more than should have happened? > It was one of the top call drivers almost every update back in windows XP days. So you're saying that Microsoft had form for this and let another one through? That's pretty bad. > There's a good reason that backup ALL important files is a mantra among people who know what they're doing. Sure, I have at least two backups of my machine using different technologies and to different locations (and yet somehow OS X, or linux for that matter, has never actually deleted my files), I'm a techie, but most people don't because most people don't know what they're doing, and puffing out your chest and claiming technical superiority isn't going to help those people. As someone else pointed out, it's entitled. > No matter the OS, no matter the hardware, stuff WILL get deleted. Apparently if you use Windows it will. > The UI The UI is not fine, it's crap. It's been infected with tablety nonesense, and as I use a Mouse too it jars. > tablets are very popular these days and microsoft does have to accommodate them. Of course? That doesn't mean bits of my desktop OS needs to look like a tablet. > And if you're ever upset about Candy Crush advertisements on Win10..... try installing ANY app on MacOS (which heavily relies on the app store unlike win10) and see how many advertisements you run into before you're done. Of course there's some adverts in the App store, it's a store, and I expect to see them the couple of times a year I actually use it. But day to day, when I turn on or log in to my machine, it's just that, my machine. Not someone elses machine that is a funnel for adverts.