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Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinia

by jbob2000 8y ago

Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team. I'm not suggesting they're intentionally doing this with google maps, but lacking a Palestinian voice, it's easy for Jewish and Israeli bias to take over.

Papirola 8y ago
that's an interesting (albeit classically racist) proposition. so, Jews control the banks, the media, tech, politics... what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? PS: how do I flag racist comments?
- jbob2000 8y ago
  What? How was this comment racist? I'm actually curious. Do you disagree that google has a strong jewish presence? I never said anything about them in banks, media, politics. All I did was search "google executive team" and looked through their wikipedia pages. > what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? They're under a blockade by the Israelis, that'll do it.
  - Papirola 8y ago
    one thing is to say: Google leadership is there thanks to their talents and accomplishments; many of them happen to be Jewish. other thing is what you said: > Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish, and furthermore there can't be any palestinean for the same reason. as for the "blockade" - newsflash: there are people of palestinean heritage living in the US leading very successful lives
    - jbob2000 8y ago
      > your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish, and furthermore there can't be any palestinean for the same reason. I did not intend that implication and I'm not sure where you're deriving it from. I think you're looking too deep into my comment, it was just a statement about what I've read, I made no comment about why they're the leaders, just that they are.
    - mthoms 8y ago
      Oh come on. You're seeing things that aren't there. >your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish That's not at all how I read it. It was merely a statement of fact.
    - sosense 8y ago
      > your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish And that's impossible? Because no group has ever discriminated?
- BoorishBears 8y ago
  By clicking flag, which I did on your comment. `Whites control the banks, the media, tech, politics What do you think prevents “black voices” from participating in those meritocratic endeavors?” ` Are you implying that Palestinians are somehow inferior and therefore have less merit for representation? I’m black and I see white supremacy folks use that sort of logic all the time.
  - Papirola 8y ago
    I was saying the exact opposite: that these being meritocratic positions, you cannot get ahead just by belonging to the "right club". Moreover, I am confident there's plenty of palestinean people at Google. Google likes to make money, and whoever can ship the best product gets to work there. I'm willing to bet if they could plug a dolphin to a keyboard and it produced good code, it will be employed at Google as well. I 100% understand how you could have understood my comment the way you did. Will try to articulate things better in the future.
    - BoorishBears 8y ago
      >that these being meritocratic positions, you cannot get ahead just by belonging to the "right club". Truly spoken like someone in the right club.
mrybczyn 8y ago
Bias confirmed. According to Google Maps "Quick Facts": Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, and not much else... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/
- jbob2000 8y ago
  Wow, this is actually really bad. > In 2014, an estimated 87% of the population belonged to the Catholic Church > Prior to Second World War there were 3,500,000 Jews in the Polish Second Republic, about 10% of the general population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland I have no idea where they got the claim that Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, what the hell google?
  - Papirola 8y ago
    maybe the intent was to say that Poland is a prominent place _for_ Jewish heritage, i.e. a large proportion of the Jewish people lived in Poland for ~1,000 years.
    - jbob2000 8y ago
      It doesn’t make sense to prioritize that over the clear majority of Christians.
HBlix 8y ago
It’s a bit of a reality bias, for most poeple’s living memory. Politics and what people wish were true aside, the outcome for Palestinians is more or less a forgone conclusion. Acknowledging what is rather than a fantasy of what think should be isn’t really a bias, it’s reporting facts. In the same way that fact sheets on America will talk a lot about what America is today, and not a history lesson about how it was colonized by Europeans.

Papirola 8y ago

that's an interesting (albeit classically racist) proposition. so, Jews control the banks, the media, tech, politics... what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? PS: how do I flag racist comments?

jbob2000 8y ago
What? How was this comment racist? I'm actually curious. Do you disagree that google has a strong jewish presence? I never said anything about them in banks, media, politics. All I did was search "google executive team" and looked through their wikipedia pages. > what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? They're under a blockade by the Israelis, that'll do it.
- Papirola 8y ago
  one thing is to say: Google leadership is there thanks to their talents and accomplishments; many of them happen to be Jewish. other thing is what you said: > Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish, and furthermore there can't be any palestinean for the same reason. as for the "blockade" - newsflash: there are people of palestinean heritage living in the US leading very successful lives
  - jbob2000 8y ago
    > your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish, and furthermore there can't be any palestinean for the same reason. I did not intend that implication and I'm not sure where you're deriving it from. I think you're looking too deep into my comment, it was just a statement about what I've read, I made no comment about why they're the leaders, just that they are.
  - mthoms 8y ago
    Oh come on. You're seeing things that aren't there. >your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish That's not at all how I read it. It was merely a statement of fact.
  - sosense 8y ago
    > your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish And that's impossible? Because no group has ever discriminated?
BoorishBears 8y ago
By clicking flag, which I did on your comment. `Whites control the banks, the media, tech, politics What do you think prevents “black voices” from participating in those meritocratic endeavors?” ` Are you implying that Palestinians are somehow inferior and therefore have less merit for representation? I’m black and I see white supremacy folks use that sort of logic all the time.
- Papirola 8y ago
  I was saying the exact opposite: that these being meritocratic positions, you cannot get ahead just by belonging to the "right club". Moreover, I am confident there's plenty of palestinean people at Google. Google likes to make money, and whoever can ship the best product gets to work there. I'm willing to bet if they could plug a dolphin to a keyboard and it produced good code, it will be employed at Google as well. I 100% understand how you could have understood my comment the way you did. Will try to articulate things better in the future.
  - BoorishBears 8y ago
    >that these being meritocratic positions, you cannot get ahead just by belonging to the "right club". Truly spoken like someone in the right club.

mrybczyn 8y ago

Bias confirmed. According to Google Maps "Quick Facts": Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, and not much else... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/

jbob2000 8y ago
Wow, this is actually really bad. > In 2014, an estimated 87% of the population belonged to the Catholic Church > Prior to Second World War there were 3,500,000 Jews in the Polish Second Republic, about 10% of the general population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland I have no idea where they got the claim that Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, what the hell google?
- Papirola 8y ago
  maybe the intent was to say that Poland is a prominent place _for_ Jewish heritage, i.e. a large proportion of the Jewish people lived in Poland for ~1,000 years.
  - jbob2000 8y ago
    It doesn’t make sense to prioritize that over the clear majority of Christians.

HBlix 8y ago

It’s a bit of a reality bias, for most poeple’s living memory. Politics and what people wish were true aside, the outcome for Palestinians is more or less a forgone conclusion. Acknowledging what is rather than a fantasy of what think should be isn’t really a bias, it’s reporting facts. In the same way that fact sheets on America will talk a lot about what America is today, and not a history lesson about how it was colonized by Europeans.