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Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wis

by fhood 8y ago

Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
> Windows 7 is just prettier XP Windows 7 has a completely revamped driver model and network stack compared to XP. They aren't really that alike.
- fhood 8y ago
  Sorry, I meant that they looked and felt quite similar to the user.
ragequitta 8y ago
I agree that sometimes Windows can be puzzling. Though I think most of the 'black box' problems I've encountered in windows have been my own damn fault. I notice people try and "fine tune" it too much. I used to be this way too, because it used to be necessary. It's really not anymore IMO. Yes you want to turn off some things (O&O makes a good list, and backs everything up before changing stuff, which is why I use it) but 99.9999% of users don't have any reason to go into the registry for instance. And if you really care about the 3MB and 0 resources you're saving by tweaking the features/apps/etc installed be VERY careful. Do not trust random 'security' and 'debloat' scripts to not completely mess up your OS. Even if you understand the script, you may not understand that uninstalling X causes Y problem. I really do think win10 is hated on quite a bit because people have caused their own issues thinking they know more than they do.
conradfr 8y ago
How are they "not good"? You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS. And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ... Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows 7 is legacy.
- ragequitta 8y ago
  XP was a very hot mess back in the day. It grew to be a passable OS, but if you were around IT when it was new you know what a nightmare it was. I still have nightmares about taking calls about the blaster worm. The problems people have with windows 10 aren't even close in scope to the ones we had with XP.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
    That's true. IIRC XP wasn't really good until sometime after SP2 (which caused its own headaches).
- ethelward 8y ago
  You can still find Windows 3.11 in some places. Longevity is not necessarily linked to quality

by fhood 8y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

> Windows 7 is just prettier XP Windows 7 has a completely revamped driver model and network stack compared to XP. They aren't really that alike.

fhood 8y ago
Sorry, I meant that they looked and felt quite similar to the user.

ragequitta 8y ago

I agree that sometimes Windows can be puzzling. Though I think most of the 'black box' problems I've encountered in windows have been my own damn fault. I notice people try and "fine tune" it too much. I used to be this way too, because it used to be necessary. It's really not anymore IMO. Yes you want to turn off some things (O&O makes a good list, and backs everything up before changing stuff, which is why I use it) but 99.9999% of users don't have any reason to go into the registry for instance. And if you really care about the 3MB and 0 resources you're saving by tweaking the features/apps/etc installed be VERY careful. Do not trust random 'security' and 'debloat' scripts to not completely mess up your OS. Even if you understand the script, you may not understand that uninstalling X causes Y problem. I really do think win10 is hated on quite a bit because people have caused their own issues thinking they know more than they do.

conradfr 8y ago

How are they "not good"? You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS. And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ... Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows 7 is legacy.

ragequitta 8y ago
XP was a very hot mess back in the day. It grew to be a passable OS, but if you were around IT when it was new you know what a nightmare it was. I still have nightmares about taking calls about the blaster worm. The problems people have with windows 10 aren't even close in scope to the ones we had with XP.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
  That's true. IIRC XP wasn't really good until sometime after SP2 (which caused its own headaches).
ethelward 8y ago
You can still find Windows 3.11 in some places. Longevity is not necessarily linked to quality