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APPLE: > Finally, in response to questions we have received from other news organizations since Businessweek published its story, we are not under any kind of

• kryogen1c 8y ago
  FWIW, NSLs prevent you from talking about being under a NSL. I don't think they can be forced to lie, though
  • fastball 8y ago
    Which is actually what Reddit did with their annual transparency report. They said something along the lines of "if we haven't been gagged, we'll explicitly tell you we haven't been gagged. Otherwise..."
    • lovich 8y ago
      If the government can compel one kind of speech, it's not hard to compel others. They don't even have to make a a brand new rule for this. The companies have stated they use this technique to get around the gag order. Judges aren't compilers who will faithfully follow all the rules as written down without deviation. They at specifically empowered to make decisions in light of new evidence, so why wouldn't they force companies to actively like if they are already adding exceptions to the first amendment?
  • ben_w 8y ago
    That is a commonly accepted position. As any prosecutions under an NSL would presumably be kept secret in order to keep the NSL itself secret, I strongly suspect that governments in general will take a dim view of such loopholes. The aforementioned secrecy means you are unlikely to find out.