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Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them ma

Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them make a public statement on a hack in a way specific to specific companies (and not others mentioned in the bloomberg article). Even if taken at face value, it can only mean 2 things. 1. They already, thouroughly investigated it (draw your own conclusions what they found or any involvement) or 2. They just issued an official statement without possibly having the time to investigate the merits of the accusation. This not only doesn't pass the sniff test, its evidince of yet another turd on our lawn.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? Chances are, American intelligence has been running counterintelligence operations through this network. That leaves lots of people in American intelligence who would prefer this remain a secret, without a similar restriction elsewhere.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
The big question is whether it's your neighbor's turd or your neighbor's dog's turd. Re: 1, if they investigated it then that means that "it" was something in the first place thus warranting the investigation. Re: 2, that's the kind of thing you do when you need to inject uncertainty into the situation to buy yourself or your buddies time to tie up loose ends/burn evidence/figure out what story they'll tell the politicians.
yAnonymous 8y ago
What if it was the 5 eyes who are responsible in the first place (knowing that the targeted services are used all over the world) and now they want to a) officially deny anything happend b) unofficially shift the blame to China Whatever happens, my popcorn is ready.
mattlondon 8y ago
Or, 3rd option, they did it (not china) and are trying to play it down as a non-event. "Nothing to see here - move along!" while thinking of a new means to hide this stuff in the server hardware...
- kryogen1c 8y ago
  I don't think this is feasible. They are 100% going to get caught with this tactic. If they were guilty in the way you guess, I think the likely response would be to muddy the waters with FUD and create lots of confusion.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? Chances are, American intelligence has been running counterintelligence operations through this network. That leaves lots of people in American intelligence who would prefer this remain a secret, without a similar restriction elsewhere.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

The big question is whether it's your neighbor's turd or your neighbor's dog's turd. Re: 1, if they investigated it then that means that "it" was something in the first place thus warranting the investigation. Re: 2, that's the kind of thing you do when you need to inject uncertainty into the situation to buy yourself or your buddies time to tie up loose ends/burn evidence/figure out what story they'll tell the politicians.

yAnonymous 8y ago

What if it was the 5 eyes who are responsible in the first place (knowing that the targeted services are used all over the world) and now they want to a) officially deny anything happend b) unofficially shift the blame to China Whatever happens, my popcorn is ready.

mattlondon 8y ago

Or, 3rd option, they did it (not china) and are trying to play it down as a non-event. "Nothing to see here - move along!" while thinking of a new means to hide this stuff in the server hardware...

kryogen1c 8y ago
I don't think this is feasible. They are 100% going to get caught with this tactic. If they were guilty in the way you guess, I think the likely response would be to muddy the waters with FUD and create lots of confusion.