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Everything you said could also be said about the Democrats, except the safe to come out as a Democrat because they control all of the media, tech companies, and

Everything you said could also be said about the Democrats, except the safe to come out as a Democrat because they control all of the media, tech companies, and generally hold power in the West.

jki275 8y ago
They generally hold power in urban areas, not just the west. The rest of the country tends right. As you say, both parties are often corrupt, the reps tend to be the family values party so you actually hear about it when they have a problem in that area. It's expected in the democrat world and nobody cares, plus they own the media almost wholly so it's not really reported much.
scrollaway 8y ago
Even as you sit with an extreme-right president and near-state-sanctioned hard-right media, you claim that "Democrats are in control". And why exactly do you claim that? How is it relevant? I'm answering a completely different question, about "coming out" as republican.
- malvosenior 8y ago
  > Even as you sit with an extreme-right president and near-state-sanctioned hard-right media, you claim that "Democrats are in control". The press and Trump are basically at war with one another. I can't see how you can claim they're both hard right. All the mainstream press (aside from Fox) endorsed Clinton.
  - scrollaway 8y ago
    Fox isn't just "any" media, it's state media. Your president watches it religiously and they have an immense influence over what he says. He has chosen to go to war with the press. To shut out reporters from the press corps. To viciously and regularly attack various media. You are slowly approaching a Russian-like regime where, if an outlet is not to the president's liking, it gets shut out entirely. It's blatant, and most republicans refuse to acknowledge it (all the while claiming they're pro free speech etc). Will you personally also be OK with that when it happens, since "well at least the democrats won't be in control anymore"? I'm scared for your country. Seeing the effect of propaganda after-the-fact in countries like Russia, North Korea, China, and many other dictatorships... it's one thing. Seeing it happen live, that's just out of this world for me.
  - krapp 8y ago
    >All the mainstream press (aside from Fox) endorsed Clinton. It is possible to endorse Clinton without being a puppet for some DNC controlled leftist conspiracy, especially when the only other option vocally denounces you as a puppet for some DNC controlled leftist conspiracy. Why would anyone but Fox News support Trump in that case? That being said, media "endorsing" candidates is a practice that should probably be ended anyway. But it's still worth pointing out that endorsing a candidate is not necessarily the same as agreeing to take orders from that candidate's party.
sjg007 8y ago
Like Fox News???
- malvosenior 8y ago
  Yes, CNN even NYT at this point is clearly partisan. I say this as neither a Republican or Democrat. Both sides are equally foolish.

Everything you said could also be said about the Democrats, except the safe to come out as a Democrat because they control all of the media, tech companies, and generally hold power in the West.

jki275 8y ago

They generally hold power in urban areas, not just the west. The rest of the country tends right. As you say, both parties are often corrupt, the reps tend to be the family values party so you actually hear about it when they have a problem in that area. It's expected in the democrat world and nobody cares, plus they own the media almost wholly so it's not really reported much.

scrollaway 8y ago

Even as you sit with an extreme-right president and near-state-sanctioned hard-right media, you claim that "Democrats are in control". And why exactly do you claim that? How is it relevant? I'm answering a completely different question, about "coming out" as republican.

malvosenior 8y ago
> Even as you sit with an extreme-right president and near-state-sanctioned hard-right media, you claim that "Democrats are in control". The press and Trump are basically at war with one another. I can't see how you can claim they're both hard right. All the mainstream press (aside from Fox) endorsed Clinton.
- scrollaway 8y ago
  Fox isn't just "any" media, it's state media. Your president watches it religiously and they have an immense influence over what he says. He has chosen to go to war with the press. To shut out reporters from the press corps. To viciously and regularly attack various media. You are slowly approaching a Russian-like regime where, if an outlet is not to the president's liking, it gets shut out entirely. It's blatant, and most republicans refuse to acknowledge it (all the while claiming they're pro free speech etc). Will you personally also be OK with that when it happens, since "well at least the democrats won't be in control anymore"? I'm scared for your country. Seeing the effect of propaganda after-the-fact in countries like Russia, North Korea, China, and many other dictatorships... it's one thing. Seeing it happen live, that's just out of this world for me.
- krapp 8y ago
  >All the mainstream press (aside from Fox) endorsed Clinton. It is possible to endorse Clinton without being a puppet for some DNC controlled leftist conspiracy, especially when the only other option vocally denounces you as a puppet for some DNC controlled leftist conspiracy. Why would anyone but Fox News support Trump in that case? That being said, media "endorsing" candidates is a practice that should probably be ended anyway. But it's still worth pointing out that endorsing a candidate is not necessarily the same as agreeing to take orders from that candidate's party.

sjg007 8y ago

Like Fox News???

malvosenior 8y ago
Yes, CNN even NYT at this point is clearly partisan. I say this as neither a Republican or Democrat. Both sides are equally foolish.