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Battle royale games were done better decades ago? I can't even think of a battle royale game from the 90s.

by plopz 8y ago

everyone 8y ago
quake, unreal tournament, tribes, battlefield, planetside.. Deathmatch with many players. Same thing pretty much, but with more action.
- plopz 8y ago
  The fundamental difference between all of those games and what I would consider a battle royale game is you only get 1 life. As an aside, I loved Tribes 2 construction mod.
  - everyone 8y ago
    I dont know but I'd bet theres an old quake mod that makes that small change.
    - jaegerpicker 8y ago
      it's not a small change, it completely changes the style and feel of the game play.
    - Kiro 8y ago
      Just stop. You clearly have no idea what a Battle Royale game is.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    Networked DOOM would like a word.
  - user5994461 8y ago
    Last I recall from playing unreal 2004, there is a slider to select how many life players have when starting a death match. Battle royale was available, long before battle royale was cool. There were also a lot of other gameplay available on top of death match, all built in: team death match, assault, onslaught, capture the flags, domination, etc...
    - Kiro 8y ago
      No, you need the blue circle, looting and big maps as well. Just having one life is not enough.
      - user5994461 8y ago
        There is looting. Weapons, ammo and equipment appear in defined locations at various times. If you look at good players who win their games, it's a lot about being at the right place at the right time. Get the best stuff and locations for yourself and don't let opponents have anything.
        Kiro 8y ago
        It's not the same kind of looting. In Battle Royale you need to search through houses, locations and move over the map to gather loot and when you kill someone you take their gear. Loot doesn't spawn after start and it's definitely not in defined locations. Sorry, but you're talking about something completely different.
        checkyoursudo 8y ago
        I think this is more of a current iteration of BR. I would say BR is a little more generic than this. My idea of it, which might not be exactly right I will admit, is just this: A battle royale game is last-man-standing or winner-take-all. The looting, houses, starting gear -- this all seems like variation more than essential. It seems like what you're describing is definitely the mainstream take on the genre right now, but I think you could make another variant that isn't like the popular ones today but is still a BR.
        Kiro 8y ago
        Fair enough, I guess it's subjective what the actual minimum requirement is but I kind of agree with the Wikipedia article personally: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game
- jaegerpicker 8y ago
  BR is a very different type of game and especially Fortnight has VERY different game play. It plays nothing like quake or ut. It's much closer to counter strike but with a higher level of tension.
  - AgentME 8y ago
    Also, add a giant map and an exploration/preparation period where most players are searching for weapons before fighting anyone.
- LyndsySimon 8y ago
  > Same thing pretty much, but with more action. That's exactly why we play BR games. These days I play mostly PUBG. Before that, Day of Infamy. Before that, Insurgency. Notice a trend? Each one of those games has a lot at stake (relatively speaking) when you get into an engagement. If you die, you sit out for a while. They're about communication and coordination between players on the same team. PUBG (and Fortnite, though that's not my preference) take it to a whole other level. It's not uncommon for me to play a game of PUBG where the first 10-15 minutes is spent either not encountering anyone or spotting them before they spot me and purposefully avoiding them. It's about tactics - either coordination with your squad, or maneuvering into a better position for the next phase of the game, or waiting until someone you're stalking has engaged someone else before engaging them. Because the preparation is longer, there's more at risk when you actually engage, and the anticipation builds to a crescendo. So, yeah - there may only be seconds of "action" in a PUBG match, but that's the whole point.
  - everyone 8y ago
    Ok then, thats been done many times ages ago in the likes of ARMA, rainbow 6, Operation flashpoint.. etc.
    - Apocryphon 8y ago
      Those are squad-based tactical military shooters focused on realism, yet another genre completely different from battle royales!
    - annywhey 8y ago
      Here, watch this: https://youtu.be/ffryiLmQb1U https://youtu.be/ffryiLmQb1U This is Fortnite build battling. BR as a whole just refers to a game ruleset that forces and encourages a last-man-standing situation. That part has been done before there was a video game. But the details of what's being communicated are different. They're different even between Rust and PUBG, despite both of them being military styled. Fortnite is in a class of its own since it's cartoonish and the building and mobility options present a lot of unique options. Even comparisons to Minecraft don't fit since the build system is different. Performing jadedness about the games being "done before" is basically like saying new movies are just collections of old cliches. Even when they are, they end up saying something different.
user5994461 8y ago
unreal tournament and counter strike for sure. Unreal tournament had an option to limit the number of life, not that is was common to use. Unreal and Fortnight are made by the same company by the way. It's really a reskin with adjusted gameplay settings.

Battle royale games were done better decades ago? I can't even think of a battle royale game from the 90s.

by plopz 8y ago

Battle royale games were done better decades ago? I can't even think of a battle royale game from the 90s.

quake, unreal tournament, tribes, battlefield, planetside.. Deathmatch with many players. Same thing pretty much, but with more action.

plopz 8y ago
The fundamental difference between all of those games and what I would consider a battle royale game is you only get 1 life. As an aside, I loved Tribes 2 construction mod.
- everyone 8y ago
  I dont know but I'd bet theres an old quake mod that makes that small change.
  - jaegerpicker 8y ago
    it's not a small change, it completely changes the style and feel of the game play.
  - Kiro 8y ago
    Just stop. You clearly have no idea what a Battle Royale game is.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Networked DOOM would like a word.
- user5994461 8y ago
  Last I recall from playing unreal 2004, there is a slider to select how many life players have when starting a death match. Battle royale was available, long before battle royale was cool. There were also a lot of other gameplay available on top of death match, all built in: team death match, assault, onslaught, capture the flags, domination, etc...
  - Kiro 8y ago
    No, you need the blue circle, looting and big maps as well. Just having one life is not enough.
    - user5994461 8y ago
      There is looting. Weapons, ammo and equipment appear in defined locations at various times. If you look at good players who win their games, it's a lot about being at the right place at the right time. Get the best stuff and locations for yourself and don't let opponents have anything.
      - Kiro 8y ago
        It's not the same kind of looting. In Battle Royale you need to search through houses, locations and move over the map to gather loot and when you kill someone you take their gear. Loot doesn't spawn after start and it's definitely not in defined locations. Sorry, but you're talking about something completely different.
        checkyoursudo 8y ago
        I think this is more of a current iteration of BR. I would say BR is a little more generic than this. My idea of it, which might not be exactly right I will admit, is just this: A battle royale game is last-man-standing or winner-take-all. The looting, houses, starting gear -- this all seems like variation more than essential. It seems like what you're describing is definitely the mainstream take on the genre right now, but I think you could make another variant that isn't like the popular ones today but is still a BR.
        Kiro 8y ago
        Fair enough, I guess it's subjective what the actual minimum requirement is but I kind of agree with the Wikipedia article personally: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game
jaegerpicker 8y ago
BR is a very different type of game and especially Fortnight has VERY different game play. It plays nothing like quake or ut. It's much closer to counter strike but with a higher level of tension.
- AgentME 8y ago
  Also, add a giant map and an exploration/preparation period where most players are searching for weapons before fighting anyone.
LyndsySimon 8y ago
> Same thing pretty much, but with more action. That's exactly why we play BR games. These days I play mostly PUBG. Before that, Day of Infamy. Before that, Insurgency. Notice a trend? Each one of those games has a lot at stake (relatively speaking) when you get into an engagement. If you die, you sit out for a while. They're about communication and coordination between players on the same team. PUBG (and Fortnite, though that's not my preference) take it to a whole other level. It's not uncommon for me to play a game of PUBG where the first 10-15 minutes is spent either not encountering anyone or spotting them before they spot me and purposefully avoiding them. It's about tactics - either coordination with your squad, or maneuvering into a better position for the next phase of the game, or waiting until someone you're stalking has engaged someone else before engaging them. Because the preparation is longer, there's more at risk when you actually engage, and the anticipation builds to a crescendo. So, yeah - there may only be seconds of "action" in a PUBG match, but that's the whole point.
- everyone 8y ago
  Ok then, thats been done many times ages ago in the likes of ARMA, rainbow 6, Operation flashpoint.. etc.
  - Apocryphon 8y ago
    Those are squad-based tactical military shooters focused on realism, yet another genre completely different from battle royales!
  - annywhey 8y ago
    Here, watch this: https://youtu.be/ffryiLmQb1U https://youtu.be/ffryiLmQb1U This is Fortnite build battling. BR as a whole just refers to a game ruleset that forces and encourages a last-man-standing situation. That part has been done before there was a video game. But the details of what's being communicated are different. They're different even between Rust and PUBG, despite both of them being military styled. Fortnite is in a class of its own since it's cartoonish and the building and mobility options present a lot of unique options. Even comparisons to Minecraft don't fit since the build system is different. Performing jadedness about the games being "done before" is basically like saying new movies are just collections of old cliches. Even when they are, they end up saying something different.

user5994461 8y ago

unreal tournament and counter strike for sure. Unreal tournament had an option to limit the number of life, not that is was common to use. Unreal and Fortnight are made by the same company by the way. It's really a reskin with adjusted gameplay settings.