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I mentioned our talk to my coworker, his immediate response was "does he work for Oracle?" I'm only half seriously asking but, do you? (Given the certificatio

by yebyen 8y ago

I mentioned our talk to my coworker, his immediate response was "does he work for Oracle?" I'm only half seriously asking but, do you? (Given the certifications you mentioned, I think that even if you don't, there is a vague subjective case that you do...)

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- yebyen 8y ago
  I apologise, I thought that was a fair question and civil... The missing context from another comment was: > ... amount of institutional inertia I've come up against while trying to get any part of our Development or Production stack shifted over to Kubernetes, which I consider myself fairly expert in, I think you'd understand that "containers on Solaris" is not going to go over any better for me than containers on GNU/Linux, Both SmartOS and GNU/Linux are open platforms, so it really wasn't fair of me to accuse a person of shilling for Oracle. I think I understand. (That wasn't my intention, but if you read it that way, that's my mistake.)
  - Annatar 8y ago
    You didn't accuse me of working for Oracle; your coworker implied it, but it also shows how little she or he is versed in the subject matter: the very reason top Solaris kernel engineers work at Joyent is that they vehemently oppose the Oracle corporation; it's that same reason why OpenSolaris was forked into illumos, from which SmartOS is built. Please let your coworker know my answer.
    - yebyen 8y ago
      That is the answer I was looking for. And also shows what I know, as I just learned that SmartOS is not the same as OpenSolaris. (Thanks!) > I‘m against object oriented programming. I just went back and read your profile again. Just wondering, what do you support instead? (At a guess I'd say functional programming?) I've often heard and suspected for myself after gaining some "industry experience" that the Object-Oriented principles taken by themselves without a strong lead designer who is vocal about (his or her) strong opinions and willing to call out bloated, poorly thought-out designs... will simply tend toward generating a Big Ball of Mud, or "Shanty-town" code. Is this generally how you feel about the subject? I think we'd probably get along well and I'd certainly like to hear from you again.
      - Annatar 8y ago
        I'm against object oriented programming because the code written in that way is needlessly complex and unmaintainable. Experience taught me that procedural, respectively the functional approach produce code which is easy to understand and therefore debug and maintain.
Annatar 8y ago
I am in no way affiliated with either Oracle or Joyent. I have never worked for or at either of those companies.

by yebyen 8y ago

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yebyen 8y ago
I apologise, I thought that was a fair question and civil... The missing context from another comment was: > ... amount of institutional inertia I've come up against while trying to get any part of our Development or Production stack shifted over to Kubernetes, which I consider myself fairly expert in, I think you'd understand that "containers on Solaris" is not going to go over any better for me than containers on GNU/Linux, Both SmartOS and GNU/Linux are open platforms, so it really wasn't fair of me to accuse a person of shilling for Oracle. I think I understand. (That wasn't my intention, but if you read it that way, that's my mistake.)
- Annatar 8y ago
  You didn't accuse me of working for Oracle; your coworker implied it, but it also shows how little she or he is versed in the subject matter: the very reason top Solaris kernel engineers work at Joyent is that they vehemently oppose the Oracle corporation; it's that same reason why OpenSolaris was forked into illumos, from which SmartOS is built. Please let your coworker know my answer.
  - yebyen 8y ago
    That is the answer I was looking for. And also shows what I know, as I just learned that SmartOS is not the same as OpenSolaris. (Thanks!) > I‘m against object oriented programming. I just went back and read your profile again. Just wondering, what do you support instead? (At a guess I'd say functional programming?) I've often heard and suspected for myself after gaining some "industry experience" that the Object-Oriented principles taken by themselves without a strong lead designer who is vocal about (his or her) strong opinions and willing to call out bloated, poorly thought-out designs... will simply tend toward generating a Big Ball of Mud, or "Shanty-town" code. Is this generally how you feel about the subject? I think we'd probably get along well and I'd certainly like to hear from you again.
    - Annatar 8y ago
      I'm against object oriented programming because the code written in that way is needlessly complex and unmaintainable. Experience taught me that procedural, respectively the functional approach produce code which is easy to understand and therefore debug and maintain.

Annatar 8y ago

I am in no way affiliated with either Oracle or Joyent. I have never worked for or at either of those companies.