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That's always misunderstood. A company is not obliged to allow access to its free contents if you refuse their terms. End of. This does not put anyone at a det
by ElBarto 8y ago
That's always misunderstood.
A company is not obliged to allow access to its free contents if you refuse their terms. End of. This does not put anyone at a detriment.
The GDPR does not change that at all.
What you quoted refers to specific contract terms as exemplified in the link provided.
Edit: I wish people understood GDPR instead of acting childishly by downvoting...
- akvadrako 8y agoYou are wrong, as has been explained to you above. I laid out the argument in more detail a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808789 Basically, you need consent to use tracking and consent isn't legal unless it's optional and independent. So it can't be tied to access.
- ElBarto 8y agoNo, I'm not wrong. The GDPR does not say that consent cannot be tied to access. What was 'explained' to me stems from people who haven't read the GDPR and/or who do not understand the terms used.
- scrollaway 8y agoYou have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Slate is doing. Slate is not saying "You can only access this if you give us consent". There's a few media sites that do that, and they're not breaking the law. No, Slate is saying "You can totally opt out... look...", and not following the proper opt-out rules.
- ElBarto 8y agoI understand what they are doing and it is fine. The hard opt out is not to consent and to navigate away from the site. That's fine. The second opt out is to withdraw consent. Obviously this means that you consent but are free to withdraw your consent as a later date. Which is what the GDPR requires, and that's also fine.
- rcxdude 8y agoA specific example of when consent is not a valid reasoning for processing personal information under the UK's interpretation of GDPR: "consent was a precondition of a service, but the processing is not necessary for that service" https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/consultations/2013551/draft-gdpr-consent-guidance-for-consultation-201703.pdf https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/consultations/2013551...
- ElBarto 8y agoThis is free contents. You misunderstand what 'contract' and 'service' mean. And, as already said, a website that provides free contents financed by ads has a legitimate claim that consent is necessary.
- mirimir 8y agoThe example in the page that I cited concerned Internet commerce sites. As I read it, you can't refuse to sell stuff if customers decline being tracked. So are you arguing that providers of "free" content are allowed more leeway in refusing service for users who decline to be tracked? Do you have a cite for that?