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We mitigate this risk by just having a spare device or spare laptop on premises. It works and it's cheap. We use tons of Macs in a business setting, and we're d

by sgt 8y ago

We mitigate this risk by just having a spare device or spare laptop on premises. It works and it's cheap. We use tons of Macs in a business setting, and we're definitely not going back to PC's. The PC's were a nightmare (not in terms of the hardware, but because of the sofware) from a management and administration perspective. Primarily because of Windows. Using Macs running macOS has really been a gamechanger.

chewyland 8y ago
As a MacBook owner MacOS feels like abandonware to me. When I reboot into Bootcamp and Windows 10 I feel like I'm using a machine 10 years in the future.
- zimpenfish 8y ago
  Whereas when I boot my games box into Windows 10 and it sits there saying "Applying updates" for 45 minutes before rebooting and then thrashing itself into unusability for another 45-60 minutes doing ... something ... I feel like I'm being trolled by MS.
  - consp 8y ago
    I have the same experience with the force upgrades of OSX (due to xcode). Download is big, require massive 21G of free space, takes ages to update on older MBPs, everything gets more sluggish after the update and crashes more often...
    - dep_b 8y ago
      That's just once per year? Microsoft throws away all of your open work at least every month. NSDocument alone is 25% of the reason I stay with macOS.
    - H1Supreme 8y ago
      I haven't used XCode in a while, but I was always amazed when I had to download the entire, massive, application every update. Android Studio has fairly consistent updates that are around 150-500mb on average.
  - highace 8y ago
    You can turn this off. I haven't done an update in at least a year.
    - natch 8y ago
      Wow. So you don’t apply security patches? Or am I not understanding what you are saying?
  - rikkus 8y ago
    And then proceeds to show you adverts
sadmikerafles 8y ago
In what world is OS X more manageable on a large scale than Windows, that's the reason it's used in every large business to start with.
- sgt 8y ago
  It's not large scale though. But if you have 50-100 fairly clued up users, macOS is better by an order of magnitude in terms of internal computer support tickets. The last people we had using Windows were struggling with all kinds of Windows-related issues and also the fact that Windows has bizarrely become terribly user-hostile. The UI is absolutely atrocious, in my opinion.
teh_klev 8y ago
> The PC's were a nightmare (not in terms of the hardware, but because of the sofware) from a management and administration perspective. Primarily because of Windows. That's a human skills problem, not a software problem. Managing a large fleet of Windows PC's is a solved problem if your sysadmins know Active Directory. There are also third party solutions if Active Directory isn't your bag (we used one at a previous company to manage a large fleet of Windows PC's and servers - its name escapes me at the moment).

by sgt 8y ago

chewyland 8y ago

As a MacBook owner MacOS feels like abandonware to me. When I reboot into Bootcamp and Windows 10 I feel like I'm using a machine 10 years in the future.

zimpenfish 8y ago
Whereas when I boot my games box into Windows 10 and it sits there saying "Applying updates" for 45 minutes before rebooting and then thrashing itself into unusability for another 45-60 minutes doing ... something ... I feel like I'm being trolled by MS.
- consp 8y ago
  I have the same experience with the force upgrades of OSX (due to xcode). Download is big, require massive 21G of free space, takes ages to update on older MBPs, everything gets more sluggish after the update and crashes more often...
  - dep_b 8y ago
    That's just once per year? Microsoft throws away all of your open work at least every month. NSDocument alone is 25% of the reason I stay with macOS.
  - H1Supreme 8y ago
    I haven't used XCode in a while, but I was always amazed when I had to download the entire, massive, application every update. Android Studio has fairly consistent updates that are around 150-500mb on average.
- highace 8y ago
  You can turn this off. I haven't done an update in at least a year.
  - natch 8y ago
    Wow. So you don’t apply security patches? Or am I not understanding what you are saying?
- rikkus 8y ago
  And then proceeds to show you adverts

sadmikerafles 8y ago

In what world is OS X more manageable on a large scale than Windows, that's the reason it's used in every large business to start with.

sgt 8y ago
It's not large scale though. But if you have 50-100 fairly clued up users, macOS is better by an order of magnitude in terms of internal computer support tickets. The last people we had using Windows were struggling with all kinds of Windows-related issues and also the fact that Windows has bizarrely become terribly user-hostile. The UI is absolutely atrocious, in my opinion.

teh_klev 8y ago

> The PC's were a nightmare (not in terms of the hardware, but because of the sofware) from a management and administration perspective. Primarily because of Windows. That's a human skills problem, not a software problem. Managing a large fleet of Windows PC's is a solved problem if your sysadmins know Active Directory. There are also third party solutions if Active Directory isn't your bag (we used one at a previous company to manage a large fleet of Windows PC's and servers - its name escapes me at the moment).