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The Norwegian national security agency has confirmed that they were aware of the allegations against SuperMicro since June, but they won't confirm if it's true

by pskk 8y ago

The Norwegian national security agency has confirmed that they were aware of the allegations against SuperMicro since June, but they won't confirm if it's true (nor are they denying it) and they noted that they are also aware that Amazon/Apple are denying it. As for why Apple/Amazon are denying it I wonder if it's because they don't want to burn bridges. If they confirm the allegations, how would that play out in the Chinese business world?

baybal2 8y ago
Well, all of the above mentioned want a slice of Chinese pie. I'd say that market linkage in between China and USA in tech was just beginning to heal up after the credit crisis, but before that Chinese companies were rather wary of going to USA because it is expensive and risky market to enter, and instead chose easier markets for overseas expansion. As any hope of rapprochement is now done for, they will revert to their old ways. Comrades from AS4134 must be now scrambling everybody and everything into damage control mode. I think they firmly believed that they had an impenetrable cover.
hugelgupf 8y ago
Do you have a source for the Norwegians?
- pskk 8y ago
  Here you go, it's close to the bottom: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xRkLep/storavis-hevder-kina-installerte-spionverktoey-i-maskinvare https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xRkLep/storavis-hevder-kina-inst... It's from a quote by the head of communications at NSM.
086421357909764 8y ago
My guess is Gag order for the US govt.
- chefkoch 8y ago
  That would be the only reason i can think of. Otherwise the SEC could really make there life miserable.
- wbl 8y ago
  A gag order cannot force you to say something. That would be government compelled speech, which is generally frowned upon by courts, to put it mildly.
  - 086421357909764 8y ago
    No, but a gag order can prohibit you from saying something specifically with regard to national security issues. So downvote away, but these documents do exist and these circumstances can and will happen. In fact, everyone impacted by Aurora, were strictly under gag orders during the onset of that investigation too.
    - wbl 8y ago
      And what did they say then? They shut up didn't they?

by pskk 8y ago

baybal2 8y ago

Well, all of the above mentioned want a slice of Chinese pie. I'd say that market linkage in between China and USA in tech was just beginning to heal up after the credit crisis, but before that Chinese companies were rather wary of going to USA because it is expensive and risky market to enter, and instead chose easier markets for overseas expansion. As any hope of rapprochement is now done for, they will revert to their old ways. Comrades from AS4134 must be now scrambling everybody and everything into damage control mode. I think they firmly believed that they had an impenetrable cover.

hugelgupf 8y ago

Do you have a source for the Norwegians?

pskk 8y ago
Here you go, it's close to the bottom: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xRkLep/storavis-hevder-kina-installerte-spionverktoey-i-maskinvare https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xRkLep/storavis-hevder-kina-inst... It's from a quote by the head of communications at NSM.

086421357909764 8y ago

My guess is Gag order for the US govt.

chefkoch 8y ago
That would be the only reason i can think of. Otherwise the SEC could really make there life miserable.
wbl 8y ago
A gag order cannot force you to say something. That would be government compelled speech, which is generally frowned upon by courts, to put it mildly.
- 086421357909764 8y ago
  No, but a gag order can prohibit you from saying something specifically with regard to national security issues. So downvote away, but these documents do exist and these circumstances can and will happen. In fact, everyone impacted by Aurora, were strictly under gag orders during the onset of that investigation too.
  - wbl 8y ago
    And what did they say then? They shut up didn't they?