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Most of these shows are junk. If you don't like comic books or dark murder based series you're not too happy with Netflix these days. It's going to be one big A

Most of these shows are junk. If you don't like comic books or dark murder based series you're not too happy with Netflix these days. It's going to be one big ABC now. What do you expect when you hire one person to churn out seven shows at once? Where's the creative risk taking? Shonda Rhimes? Ugh.

lotsofpulp 8y ago
It’s funny, before the ads annoyed me. But now I’m wary of investing time into any shows because I’m afraid of all the extra time they waste with filler content like unnecessary drama or actors looking at each other’s faces, presumably to make it feel like you’re getting more minutes of content for your money. But I feel like it’s wasting my time. At least I have the option of fast forward, though more likely I’ll just stop watching everything except the most highly acclaimed stuff. And/or I’m getting older and just not entertained as much by it anymore.
- krige 8y ago
  Because of this, I have stopped watching new series on Netflix, and instead use it to re-watch older classic movies and series. YMMV on if it's worth as much but it's enough for me, at least for now.
  - JansjoFromIkea 8y ago
    Netflix's classic movies selection is pretty terrible though, isn't it? I know I checked a couple of months back on the UK library for some noirs and I can't remember exactly but I think there may have only been 1 (Touch of Evil iirc)
    - richmarr 8y ago
      US content is much deeper than UK, most likely due to (a) operating for longer in that market and (b) better economics for going hunting for licencing rights for not-even-that-long long-tail content. In case anyone hasn't seen it, here's an eye-opening post from someone at the British Film Institite, explaining the rediculous lengths they had to go to just to do a screening of Kathryn Bigelow's "Point Break" https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/comment/point-break-not-coming-cinema-near-you https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/com... (and the follow up when they eventually managed to get rights to show the movie) https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/features/point-break-quest-rights-kathryn-bigelow https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/fea...
      - JansjoFromIkea 8y ago
        Neat article, thanks! RE: Netflix US, if this site is accurate the US is actually worse than the UK for films from the 1950s https://unogs.com/?q=-!1950,1962-!0,5-!0,10-!0,10-!Any-!Any-!Any-!Any-!I%20Don&cl=78,&pt=&st=adv&p=1&ao=and https://unogs.com/?q=-!1950,1962-!0,5-!0,10-!0,10-!Any-!Any-...
    - ghaff 8y ago
      Streaming yes. So get a DVD subscription. Though, sadly, they’re allowing their back catalog to degrade significantly.
- magicalhippo 8y ago
  Netflix series are hardly the only ones guilty of this. In my experience, Netflix series with only 8-10 episodes seem to have much less of this than the 22-23 episode seasons the networks churn out.
- gutnor 8y ago
  At least Netflix releases a season at a time. On Broadcast tv, filler episodes were really upsetting when you had to wait a week or more. (even worse in foreign countries that took time to realise US series moved to multiple episode story arc, meaning often you get mix and match season in a single year run)
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  The glacial pace of "Better Call Saul" springs to mind. I'm still sticking with it and it seems to be slowly starting to pick up (just in time for this season to end).
  - overcast 8y ago
    The slow build up of Better Call Saul is what makes it good for me. I love looooong character developments. Too much spastic, constant action in movies/tv these days.
mrweasel 8y ago
You're not wrong. I think a major issue is a lack of talented writers. A large number of show, like the Netflix Originals, seems to have a good idea for one season. When season two comes around it's clear that the creators/writers just had ideas for one season and the quality of the show suffers. The Marvel based shows Netflix produces just wants to capitalize on the success of the movies, but they couldn't secure the right to top tier super heros and they're struck with charters that can't carry multiple seasons.
- dylan604 8y ago
  >A large number of show, like the Netflix Originals, seems to have a good idea for one season. Think of the first season like a start up. You have a creator/founder that has a passion project/idea/concept, but can't get in front of the right people to make it happen, yet. They keep pitching it, getting feedback, re-working the original concept through many iterations (could be years). Then one day they meet the right investor/producer/etc with a much more fully edited/revised product and plenty of practice pitching. The original product gets made to great fanfare, and suddenly everyone wants version/season 2.0, but like now. Everyone forgets how long v1/s1 took to develop. Some developers/creators can already see past v1 to vX, and just hope they can keep the product viable long enough to get there.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Their "adult cartoons" too. Most of the world got fed up with Family Guy years ago. We don't need endless low-effort clones.
- dawnerd 8y ago
  Bojack is pretty good although they probably should have stopped after the second season.

lotsofpulp 8y ago

It’s funny, before the ads annoyed me. But now I’m wary of investing time into any shows because I’m afraid of all the extra time they waste with filler content like unnecessary drama or actors looking at each other’s faces, presumably to make it feel like you’re getting more minutes of content for your money. But I feel like it’s wasting my time. At least I have the option of fast forward, though more likely I’ll just stop watching everything except the most highly acclaimed stuff. And/or I’m getting older and just not entertained as much by it anymore.

krige 8y ago
Because of this, I have stopped watching new series on Netflix, and instead use it to re-watch older classic movies and series. YMMV on if it's worth as much but it's enough for me, at least for now.
- JansjoFromIkea 8y ago
  Netflix's classic movies selection is pretty terrible though, isn't it? I know I checked a couple of months back on the UK library for some noirs and I can't remember exactly but I think there may have only been 1 (Touch of Evil iirc)
  - richmarr 8y ago
    US content is much deeper than UK, most likely due to (a) operating for longer in that market and (b) better economics for going hunting for licencing rights for not-even-that-long long-tail content. In case anyone hasn't seen it, here's an eye-opening post from someone at the British Film Institite, explaining the rediculous lengths they had to go to just to do a screening of Kathryn Bigelow's "Point Break" https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/comment/point-break-not-coming-cinema-near-you https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/com... (and the follow up when they eventually managed to get rights to show the movie) https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/features/point-break-quest-rights-kathryn-bigelow https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/fea...
    - JansjoFromIkea 8y ago
      Neat article, thanks! RE: Netflix US, if this site is accurate the US is actually worse than the UK for films from the 1950s https://unogs.com/?q=-!1950,1962-!0,5-!0,10-!0,10-!Any-!Any-!Any-!Any-!I%20Don&cl=78,&pt=&st=adv&p=1&ao=and https://unogs.com/?q=-!1950,1962-!0,5-!0,10-!0,10-!Any-!Any-...
  - ghaff 8y ago
    Streaming yes. So get a DVD subscription. Though, sadly, they’re allowing their back catalog to degrade significantly.
magicalhippo 8y ago
Netflix series are hardly the only ones guilty of this. In my experience, Netflix series with only 8-10 episodes seem to have much less of this than the 22-23 episode seasons the networks churn out.
gutnor 8y ago
At least Netflix releases a season at a time. On Broadcast tv, filler episodes were really upsetting when you had to wait a week or more. (even worse in foreign countries that took time to realise US series moved to multiple episode story arc, meaning often you get mix and match season in a single year run)
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
The glacial pace of "Better Call Saul" springs to mind. I'm still sticking with it and it seems to be slowly starting to pick up (just in time for this season to end).
- overcast 8y ago
  The slow build up of Better Call Saul is what makes it good for me. I love looooong character developments. Too much spastic, constant action in movies/tv these days.

mrweasel 8y ago

You're not wrong. I think a major issue is a lack of talented writers. A large number of show, like the Netflix Originals, seems to have a good idea for one season. When season two comes around it's clear that the creators/writers just had ideas for one season and the quality of the show suffers. The Marvel based shows Netflix produces just wants to capitalize on the success of the movies, but they couldn't secure the right to top tier super heros and they're struck with charters that can't carry multiple seasons.

dylan604 8y ago
>A large number of show, like the Netflix Originals, seems to have a good idea for one season. Think of the first season like a start up. You have a creator/founder that has a passion project/idea/concept, but can't get in front of the right people to make it happen, yet. They keep pitching it, getting feedback, re-working the original concept through many iterations (could be years). Then one day they meet the right investor/producer/etc with a much more fully edited/revised product and plenty of practice pitching. The original product gets made to great fanfare, and suddenly everyone wants version/season 2.0, but like now. Everyone forgets how long v1/s1 took to develop. Some developers/creators can already see past v1 to vX, and just hope they can keep the product viable long enough to get there.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Their "adult cartoons" too. Most of the world got fed up with Family Guy years ago. We don't need endless low-effort clones.

dawnerd 8y ago
Bojack is pretty good although they probably should have stopped after the second season.