I don't know... I think the DS Lite and the Wiimote are approaching Apple's level of simplicity in design, although they lack the premium in cost. As for ugly

I don't know... I think the DS Lite and the Wiimote are approaching Apple's level of simplicity in design, although they lack the premium in cost. As for ugly Apple products, there are probably some out there that qualify (mostly non-Jobs stuff)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II_series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II_series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMate_300 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMate_300 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Anniversary_Macintosh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Anniversary_Macintosh