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by Aloha 8y ago

If you don't like the particularities of how with how a business does business, don't buy their products. If enough people agree with you, the company will either go out of business, or will change its business practices. The what amounts to hand wringing over Apple, mostly gets people flustered, without actually changing anything, but perhaps the direction of a few electrons somewhere.

maxerickson 8y ago
So publicly criticizing the business practice you don't like, as a gambit to get other people to agree with you, is just off the table?
p2t2p 8y ago
I do change something. I've got Thinkpad T25 with linux on board as my next computer instead of mac. I've got off iCloud Drive - replaced it with SyncThing + Dropbox combination (Dropbox to deliver stuff to iPhone). I've got off from Apple Music - back to owning my music (I endlessly tired of "this album is not available in your country"). The only thing left to figure out is photos - but I think I'll just slap together couple scripts in bash to transfer them from iPhone whenever I connect it to my laptop.
- chx 8y ago
  The ThinkPad Anniversary Edition 25 is an anomaly alas. Wish there were more like it. But, I have mine too :)
staplers 8y ago
If you don't like the planet you're on, anyone can build a rocket ship and fly away if they really want to. Using your logic, why should anyone change anything when they can just run away from their problems?
- darpa_escapee 8y ago
  Apple isn't a planet. The only reason I have a relationship with them is because they offered a product that suited my needs. A product I cannot repair does not suit my needs. I owe them no allegiance.
parrellel 8y ago
I, for one, refuse to buy their products and would really like it if they went out of business. How do I get other people to agree with me without talking about why I despise them?
- deleted 8y ago
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stale2002 8y ago
Instead of that, we can use any and all means necessary to cause damage to the company engaging in these practices. There is nothing immoral about attempting to cause monetary damages to bad actors.
snaky 8y ago
> Xiaomi overtakes Apple in China, Apple relegated to ‘Others’ https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/27/iphone-sales-decline-china/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/27/iphone-sales-decline-china/
bigbugbag 8y ago
This is how we wish it would work, but in the real world marketing, advertising, neuromarketing and piles of money are here to ensure it does not. Actually there is this quote, forgot by whom, saying that 20th century saw a shift of power from politicians towards corporation, the largest advance in democracy, and corporation using their newly acquired power to protect themselves from the advance in democracy.

by Aloha 8y ago

maxerickson 8y ago

So publicly criticizing the business practice you don't like, as a gambit to get other people to agree with you, is just off the table?

p2t2p 8y ago

I do change something. I've got Thinkpad T25 with linux on board as my next computer instead of mac. I've got off iCloud Drive - replaced it with SyncThing + Dropbox combination (Dropbox to deliver stuff to iPhone). I've got off from Apple Music - back to owning my music (I endlessly tired of "this album is not available in your country"). The only thing left to figure out is photos - but I think I'll just slap together couple scripts in bash to transfer them from iPhone whenever I connect it to my laptop.

chx 8y ago
The ThinkPad Anniversary Edition 25 is an anomaly alas. Wish there were more like it. But, I have mine too :)

staplers 8y ago

If you don't like the planet you're on, anyone can build a rocket ship and fly away if they really want to. Using your logic, why should anyone change anything when they can just run away from their problems?

darpa_escapee 8y ago
Apple isn't a planet. The only reason I have a relationship with them is because they offered a product that suited my needs. A product I cannot repair does not suit my needs. I owe them no allegiance.

parrellel 8y ago

I, for one, refuse to buy their products and would really like it if they went out of business. How do I get other people to agree with me without talking about why I despise them?

deleted 8y ago
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stale2002 8y ago

Instead of that, we can use any and all means necessary to cause damage to the company engaging in these practices. There is nothing immoral about attempting to cause monetary damages to bad actors.

snaky 8y ago

> Xiaomi overtakes Apple in China, Apple relegated to ‘Others’ https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/27/iphone-sales-decline-china/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/27/iphone-sales-decline-china/

bigbugbag 8y ago

This is how we wish it would work, but in the real world marketing, advertising, neuromarketing and piles of money are here to ensure it does not. Actually there is this quote, forgot by whom, saying that 20th century saw a shift of power from politicians towards corporation, the largest advance in democracy, and corporation using their newly acquired power to protect themselves from the advance in democracy.