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Can anyone name one for-profit company that wants to build software on Solid?

Waterluvian 8y ago
The concept excites me. I want companies to sell software for a dollar value. That's what solid leaves open as the one remaining business model. You can't use my data so you're just selling an app for five bucks or whatever. With the runaway success of microtransactions, I doubt this interests many. You can even see it in gaming. Spend $100 on Assassin's Creed and it still wants you to cough up $10 for exp boosts.
- mrep 8y ago
  > With the runaway success of microtransactions What are you talking about?
  - unmole 8y ago
    I'm guessing he was talking about the revenue model of the most profitable mobile games.
    - luckystarr 8y ago
      Especially the fact that it's working.
TACIXAT 8y ago
I don't think that's a great mark of success early on.
- dustingetz 8y ago
  I've been reading about solid for three years now and there's nothing. In 1992, the Web was doubling every 3-4 months according to Weaving the Web by Tim Berners Lee page 66 which I happen to have sitting on my desk. Mosaic was founded in '93 and Netscape in '94. Solid has nothing.
  - mmt 8y ago
    > Mosaic was founded in '93 and Netscape in '94 Only Netscape is a for-profit company, and it took 3 years of the Web existing to be founded.
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codingdave 8y ago
Why does it have to be a for-profit company?
- nine_k 8y ago
  To be able to hire good engineers to work on Solid full time.
- dustingetz 8y ago
  you’re right, it’s a good question. my instinct is that markets get to the truth about what people need or want sufficiently to pay for. there’s a lot of virtue signaling and lip flapping bs to cut through in the dweb space.
kromem 8y ago
It's not like the early Internet was a haven of for profit companies in the early days. Early on most of the profit was in providing the access, not the content.
- seanhunter 8y ago
  This would be competing against the existing internet though, where there are a lot of for-profit companies fuelling the content (for the consumer). If I'm a business I need to decide whether to back a scrappy startup infrastructure with no users or to go with the established internet with a vast potential customerbase. If I'm a user I need to decide between the existing internet with vast swathes of content and huge numbers of different services and this new network with better protections for my privacy but basically none of the above. The early internet was innately disruptive and extremely different from anything that was there before. This doesn't have that advantage as far as I can see.
- dustingetz 8y ago
  there doesn’t need to be a haven, i only asked for the name of a single entity!
gibsonf1 8y ago
graphMetrix.com - Solid service to support business customer data launching in the next 2 months.
lvs 8y ago
Is that a remotely important question? You couldn't have answered such a question on ARPANET, or more pertinently when TimBL was at CERN. You're one of those people who thinks the internet was built by for-profit companies, and therefore you're one of the people who doesn't know any history.

The concept excites me. I want companies to sell software for a dollar value. That's what solid leaves open as the one remaining business model. You can't use my data so you're just selling an app for five bucks or whatever. With the runaway success of microtransactions, I doubt this interests many. You can even see it in gaming. Spend $100 on Assassin's Creed and it still wants you to cough up $10 for exp boosts.

mrep 8y ago
> With the runaway success of microtransactions What are you talking about?
- unmole 8y ago
  I'm guessing he was talking about the revenue model of the most profitable mobile games.
  - luckystarr 8y ago
    Especially the fact that it's working.

TACIXAT 8y ago

I don't think that's a great mark of success early on.

dustingetz 8y ago
I've been reading about solid for three years now and there's nothing. In 1992, the Web was doubling every 3-4 months according to Weaving the Web by Tim Berners Lee page 66 which I happen to have sitting on my desk. Mosaic was founded in '93 and Netscape in '94. Solid has nothing.
- mmt 8y ago
  > Mosaic was founded in '93 and Netscape in '94 Only Netscape is a for-profit company, and it took 3 years of the Web existing to be founded.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]

codingdave 8y ago

Why does it have to be a for-profit company?

nine_k 8y ago
To be able to hire good engineers to work on Solid full time.
dustingetz 8y ago
you’re right, it’s a good question. my instinct is that markets get to the truth about what people need or want sufficiently to pay for. there’s a lot of virtue signaling and lip flapping bs to cut through in the dweb space.

kromem 8y ago

It's not like the early Internet was a haven of for profit companies in the early days. Early on most of the profit was in providing the access, not the content.

seanhunter 8y ago
This would be competing against the existing internet though, where there are a lot of for-profit companies fuelling the content (for the consumer). If I'm a business I need to decide whether to back a scrappy startup infrastructure with no users or to go with the established internet with a vast potential customerbase. If I'm a user I need to decide between the existing internet with vast swathes of content and huge numbers of different services and this new network with better protections for my privacy but basically none of the above. The early internet was innately disruptive and extremely different from anything that was there before. This doesn't have that advantage as far as I can see.
dustingetz 8y ago
there doesn’t need to be a haven, i only asked for the name of a single entity!

gibsonf1 8y ago

graphMetrix.com - Solid service to support business customer data launching in the next 2 months.

lvs 8y ago

Is that a remotely important question? You couldn't have answered such a question on ARPANET, or more pertinently when TimBL was at CERN. You're one of those people who thinks the internet was built by for-profit companies, and therefore you're one of the people who doesn't know any history.