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Syntax is a crucial component of any programming language. I would disagree, though, that there's anything inherently easier about imperative languages. Could

• fossuser 8y ago
  It's hard to disambiguate familiarity, but I'd suggest that imperative languages are more similar to spoken/written human language, particularly english. I'd suspect if you gave someone who didn't know lisp or java a simple program and had them try and explain what it was doing they'd have more luck with understanding the java syntax.
• erikpukinskis 8y ago
  It seems like you’re saying the primitives don’t matter at all? I see three major programming styles: imperative, declarative, and functional. Declarative seems extremely popular these days (see Rails, CSS, Webpack, etc). My guess is it’s because it’s fairly obvious how to design a declarative API. You just think about what you’d want as an application programmer, write that down in English, and then target that with your implementation. These interfaces are totally unstable, and so they just degrade with time but they’re so easy to stand up they dominate the field. Imperative interfaces are a bit harder because you need to explicitly pass all of your data through every call. This is laborious at first and you have to do lots of refactoring of the interface as you implement it. API developers generally don’t like this feeling, and would rather have a stable interface to target and only futz with the internals. And it takes longer and requires more pondering when you can’t just reach directly into arbitrary parts of your code base and do whatever TF you want. And since APIs are usually released before they stabilize, application developers also don’t like seeing their interfaces move. Functional APIs are like the imperative ones but even moreso. Not only do you have to pass around data explicitly all the time, you have to model every intermediate state in your data explicitly too. This is even more constrictive, which just makes all of the above even worse. Personally, I think this pain pays off in the end, and I code in a purely imperative style deep in a haunted wood. The suffering over moving interfaces eventually leads to a stable interface that’s actually well thought out and composeable. Code can become “finished” whereas declarative code almost always just rots til it’s replaced. But in terms of “Don’t make me think” which is most pro developers dominant mode of working, there is a clear declarative > imperative > functional hierarchy. In theory a purely imperative or purely functional ecosystem could gain a kind of network effect of good code that would eventually outweigh the work slowdown.... your application code would be harder to write, but you’d be writing on top of a richer, more composeable library base. However we don’t seem to observe this in practice. My theory is that imperative and especially functional languages tend to attract masochists, who get yakshorn into radical experiments into purism, trying to bend every aspect of an ecosystem into a perfect Q-dimensional prism. This leads to just less effort in churning out pragmatic tools. And it also leads to a kind of dazzling conversation around the languages that turns away people who are just trying to get something done. With sustained effort these effects could be overcome. Over time I am building a library of pure imperative JavaScript modules. They seem to be reaching “finished” one by one. We’ll see.