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It is weird to hear developers say this. The tooling around your app is essential to understanding how it runs, why would someone not know this stuff?
by tomc1985 8y ago
It is weird to hear developers say this. The tooling around your app is essential to understanding how it runs, why would someone not know this stuff?
- sjf 8y agoI don't know how to design an IC either...
- zymhan 8y agoYou do if you're programming in assembly. Developers need to understand how the layer underneath their code works. If you're writing Java, you should understand the JVM. If you're writing C, you should understand the compiler.
- stronglikedan 8y agoOne layer, maybe, but should you be able to deploy any type of web server on every OS if you're writing a web app? I'm not so sure.
- zymhan 8y ago> One layer Yes, that's why I said "layer beneath" and not "layerS beneath"
- stronglikedan 8y agoCorrect, which is why I was agreeing with you, but questioning the premise of a couple comments above yours. I.e., how far up the infrastructure stack should have developer the expected to know intimately?
- oblio 8y agoBecause they don't care, what they're doing is good enough and at the end of the day they want to go home and enjoy what they like together with the loved ones. Shocking, truly :p I know this is a dirty thought, here on Hacker News.
- pm90 8y agoI don't think its a dirty thought; its a different perspective. But I do suspect that one of the qualities of a good hacker is to be relentlessly curious about how things work, to set up something and then be curious about how it works "under the hood", and to dedicate some serious time to learning it. Inevitably, that has an effect on relationships and general life.
- oblio 8y agoI'm not in the camp I described in the previous comment, I was just making an observation. > Inevitably, that has an effect on relationships and general life. I'll make another observation: I don't think so. There's plenty of people who lack curiosity that led happy lives. I don't think anyone can prove a correlation between curiosity and success in life. Heck, one could joke that there's a reason most proverbs say the opposite, in almost every language out there ("curiosity killed the cat" in English, "curious people die young", in my native Romanian).
- tomc1985 8y agoThe people that built all this tech that pays your bills were the kind that would think about the sorts of things I bring up. I don't see that in the latest gen of developers.
- oblio 8y agoYou're not looking hard enough. Every generation has them, you're just starting to develop "get off my lawn syndrome". If your username is any indication of your age, it's a bit early for that :D