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Siri, I just landed in New Zealand. * changes passcode to a random 256 character alpha-numeric string, locking you out of the phone * https://news.ycombinat

Siri, I just landed in New Zealand. * changes passcode to a random 256 character alpha-numeric string, locking you out of the phone * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18112734 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18112734 or maybe... Siri, they're forcing me to use face unlock. * erases data and performs a factory reset * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18112732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18112732

nyolfen 8y ago
you can definitely be prosecuted for the latter in the US
- tfha 8y ago
  You can? I thought this was okay.
  - cortesoft 8y ago
    Destroying evidence? No, that is a crime
    - justtopost 8y ago
      Only when knowingly hiding a crime. You can choose to wipe your device without an alibi thankfully.
    - akerro 8y ago
      What evidence?
- lighthazard 8y ago
  Would it be a lesser sentence than a potentially worse revelation?
  - FLUX-YOU 8y ago
    That phone should have been shredded way before you got pulled over.
  - Analemma_ 8y ago
    Probably not. Judges really, really hate defendants who destroy evidence, and getting the maximum statutory penalty is common in such cases.
exabrial 8y ago
Siri, read the 5th Amendment to me
- cyphar 8y ago
  Not to be snark but New Zealand is not part of the United States. However, their bill of rights does include sections that are similar in scope to the US 5th Amendment.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    Everyone knows US law applies in New Zealand. Just ask Kim Dotcom.
    - yitchelle 8y ago
      Not just NZ. Just ask the Central American countries and others...
- ispiansclsda 8y ago
  Alexa, play Despacito.
Razengan 8y ago
That news about New Zealand and people’s experiences in other “first world” countries... How is this still called the “Free World” anymore? (Not an attempt at some Reddit’y snark. This is increasingly feeling dystopian.)
- gmueckl 8y ago
  When I started to write this post, I had no intention of creating this rambling essay that might well come straight from a comspiracy nutjob. It is certainly not well supported by any facts that I have readily available. But I really need to vent, so here it is anyway: I too get the perception (through media!) that the world is becoming more dystopian. But I think that there may be more to that than meets the eye. I am seriously starting to wonder if social media and internet based media in general have a big part in that. This is not a single issue IMO. There are several aspects to it: people get offer a much wider spectrum of sources of information and generally tend to prefer thise that have slants more in line with their own views. Also, bad news is more sensational and spreads wider and faster than good news. This lead to a bias in what is reported. Thirdly, and most damning, social media is not only supporting these bubbles that people build around themselves. They are being exploited by actors who post material that is designed to undermine our perception and our opinions. This is apparantly done in subtle ways. Some internet shitstorms are apparently engineered using bots to shape public views on certain topics. This seems to be done to subtly, slowly and purposefully undermine public opinion and steer it towards extreme views. There was a recent study undertaken of s sample of Twitter messages to Rian Johnson about Star Wars VIII. A substantial fraction of the negative comments were apparently manufactured using bots. This activity appears to be linked to a political motivation, but I do not know how the study reaches that conclusion. But if it is true, it is quite disturbing. When creating the world wide web, the idealists among us wanted to bring the world closer together and make it more connected and peaceful. I get the suspicion that these good intentions instead bring us closer to an age of renewed nationalism, intolerance and totalitarianism, which is created by maliciously exploring the very freedoms we wanted for everyone.
- blattimwind 8y ago
  Hypocrisy but mostly the attempt to unify totally divergent realities, usually by omitting / "forgetting" something. E.g. you can't be the good guys when you abuse children at your border, so obviously that's fake news (=propaganda by the bad guys) and/or(!) those are criminals anyway (=the propaganda by the bad guys omits those parts showing how what you're doing is the right and overall good thing to do). Another example where this is readily apparent is Americans and their freedom knee-jerk reflex; all the while the US is a country with some of the most restrictive justice/penal systems in the world, the most powerful surveillance state in the world and also comes with it's own secret court and set of secret laws. Random quote: > All men have served their sentence and yet, due to a controversial legal mandate, they remain confined indefinitely.
conradev 8y ago
If you ask Siri “Who’s phone is this?” while the phone is locked, it will disable biometric authentication.

nyolfen 8y ago

you can definitely be prosecuted for the latter in the US

tfha 8y ago
You can? I thought this was okay.
- cortesoft 8y ago
  Destroying evidence? No, that is a crime
  - justtopost 8y ago
    Only when knowingly hiding a crime. You can choose to wipe your device without an alibi thankfully.
  - akerro 8y ago
    What evidence?
lighthazard 8y ago
Would it be a lesser sentence than a potentially worse revelation?
- FLUX-YOU 8y ago
  That phone should have been shredded way before you got pulled over.
- Analemma_ 8y ago
  Probably not. Judges really, really hate defendants who destroy evidence, and getting the maximum statutory penalty is common in such cases.

exabrial 8y ago

Siri, read the 5th Amendment to me

cyphar 8y ago
Not to be snark but New Zealand is not part of the United States. However, their bill of rights does include sections that are similar in scope to the US 5th Amendment.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Everyone knows US law applies in New Zealand. Just ask Kim Dotcom.
  - yitchelle 8y ago
    Not just NZ. Just ask the Central American countries and others...
ispiansclsda 8y ago
Alexa, play Despacito.

Razengan 8y ago

That news about New Zealand and people’s experiences in other “first world” countries... How is this still called the “Free World” anymore? (Not an attempt at some Reddit’y snark. This is increasingly feeling dystopian.)

gmueckl 8y ago
When I started to write this post, I had no intention of creating this rambling essay that might well come straight from a comspiracy nutjob. It is certainly not well supported by any facts that I have readily available. But I really need to vent, so here it is anyway: I too get the perception (through media!) that the world is becoming more dystopian. But I think that there may be more to that than meets the eye. I am seriously starting to wonder if social media and internet based media in general have a big part in that. This is not a single issue IMO. There are several aspects to it: people get offer a much wider spectrum of sources of information and generally tend to prefer thise that have slants more in line with their own views. Also, bad news is more sensational and spreads wider and faster than good news. This lead to a bias in what is reported. Thirdly, and most damning, social media is not only supporting these bubbles that people build around themselves. They are being exploited by actors who post material that is designed to undermine our perception and our opinions. This is apparantly done in subtle ways. Some internet shitstorms are apparently engineered using bots to shape public views on certain topics. This seems to be done to subtly, slowly and purposefully undermine public opinion and steer it towards extreme views. There was a recent study undertaken of s sample of Twitter messages to Rian Johnson about Star Wars VIII. A substantial fraction of the negative comments were apparently manufactured using bots. This activity appears to be linked to a political motivation, but I do not know how the study reaches that conclusion. But if it is true, it is quite disturbing. When creating the world wide web, the idealists among us wanted to bring the world closer together and make it more connected and peaceful. I get the suspicion that these good intentions instead bring us closer to an age of renewed nationalism, intolerance and totalitarianism, which is created by maliciously exploring the very freedoms we wanted for everyone.
blattimwind 8y ago
Hypocrisy but mostly the attempt to unify totally divergent realities, usually by omitting / "forgetting" something. E.g. you can't be the good guys when you abuse children at your border, so obviously that's fake news (=propaganda by the bad guys) and/or(!) those are criminals anyway (=the propaganda by the bad guys omits those parts showing how what you're doing is the right and overall good thing to do). Another example where this is readily apparent is Americans and their freedom knee-jerk reflex; all the while the US is a country with some of the most restrictive justice/penal systems in the world, the most powerful surveillance state in the world and also comes with it's own secret court and set of secret laws. Random quote: > All men have served their sentence and yet, due to a controversial legal mandate, they remain confined indefinitely.

conradev 8y ago

If you ask Siri “Who’s phone is this?” while the phone is locked, it will disable biometric authentication.