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I guess what the comment echoed was that Tesla sell much better because of the status. And the other EVs don't enjoy such futuristic image. I'll add my own poi

I guess what the comment echoed was that Tesla sell much better because of the status. And the other EVs don't enjoy such futuristic image. I'll add my own point that Tesla's image is very undeserved, it is only kept by the cult of Elon musk and incessant lies about self driving technology.

kidsnow 8y ago
Wrong. Even without self-driving technology, people would buy these cars. Several friends specifically deleted the self driving hardware on their Model 3's.
- rjplatte 8y ago
  I'm super curious about the hardware deletion process.
  - Zarel 8y ago
    I assume he just means "chose to omit the Autopilot hardware when buying the car", which makes the car $5000 cheaper.
twblalock 8y ago
They are objectively nice cars. They look nice, they drive nice, they are high performance, and they are usable in daily life. That is plenty of reasons for people to buy them. The only viable electric vehicles at the same price point are the Chevy Bolt and the Nissan Leaf, and if you ever see one of those parked next to a Model 3 you'll notice that the Model 3 is far more attractive.
dkhenry 8y ago
I will add my own anecdote that if anything Tesla is underrated. Not only is the drivetrain in the car worlds ahead of anything else on the road, but the fringe parts of the company like the supercharger network and service organization so far ahead of the legacy automakers that I don't see how they will ever catch up without an organizational split to separate the ICE business from the EV business.
- Latteland 8y ago
  I have found them to really be fantastic and great to drive. So quiet, advanced electronics like mapping streaming voice recognition, quiet, low center of gravity.
askafriend 8y ago
Completely wrong. Rent a Model 3 for a single day and you'll see exactly why. The product really does speak for itself, similar to how the first iPhone spoke for itself despite some shortcomings. If you've tried a Model 3 for a day and you still hold the same opinion you presented here, I concede my point - but I really think you have to experience it to know why there is a lot of hype around the car. The hype is justified, surprisingly so.
- lozaning 8y ago
  Anecdotely, I canceled my day 1 preorder after going to their AWD performance model test drive event at Telsa HQ. The .2 seconds faster to 60 that it goes than my existing car is not worth the tradeoff off of the horrendous steering and lack of road feedback.
- FireBeyond 8y ago
  I'd be curious to try the 3. I drove an S in Austin and was underwhelmed compared to my S5 on many different levels (yes, the S5 is a higher end car, but so too is the S).

kidsnow 8y ago

Wrong. Even without self-driving technology, people would buy these cars. Several friends specifically deleted the self driving hardware on their Model 3's.

rjplatte 8y ago
I'm super curious about the hardware deletion process.
- Zarel 8y ago
  I assume he just means "chose to omit the Autopilot hardware when buying the car", which makes the car $5000 cheaper.

twblalock 8y ago

They are objectively nice cars. They look nice, they drive nice, they are high performance, and they are usable in daily life. That is plenty of reasons for people to buy them. The only viable electric vehicles at the same price point are the Chevy Bolt and the Nissan Leaf, and if you ever see one of those parked next to a Model 3 you'll notice that the Model 3 is far more attractive.

dkhenry 8y ago

I will add my own anecdote that if anything Tesla is underrated. Not only is the drivetrain in the car worlds ahead of anything else on the road, but the fringe parts of the company like the supercharger network and service organization so far ahead of the legacy automakers that I don't see how they will ever catch up without an organizational split to separate the ICE business from the EV business.

Latteland 8y ago
I have found them to really be fantastic and great to drive. So quiet, advanced electronics like mapping streaming voice recognition, quiet, low center of gravity.

askafriend 8y ago

Completely wrong. Rent a Model 3 for a single day and you'll see exactly why. The product really does speak for itself, similar to how the first iPhone spoke for itself despite some shortcomings. If you've tried a Model 3 for a day and you still hold the same opinion you presented here, I concede my point - but I really think you have to experience it to know why there is a lot of hype around the car. The hype is justified, surprisingly so.

lozaning 8y ago
Anecdotely, I canceled my day 1 preorder after going to their AWD performance model test drive event at Telsa HQ. The .2 seconds faster to 60 that it goes than my existing car is not worth the tradeoff off of the horrendous steering and lack of road feedback.
FireBeyond 8y ago
I'd be curious to try the 3. I drove an S in Austin and was underwhelmed compared to my S5 on many different levels (yes, the S5 is a higher end car, but so too is the S).