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Title could be: "single page with [THE FULL ARTICLE TEXT OF] the top 30 stories" Feature-wise this is great, it's like an auto-inlined Safari reader version of

by yaj54 8y ago

Title could be: "single page with [THE FULL ARTICLE TEXT OF] the top 30 stories" Feature-wise this is great, it's like an auto-inlined Safari reader version of all the articles. Unfortunately re-publishing other people's work (written article) is generally considered theft or a copyright violation. HOWEVER, things like safari reader exist, and I believe side-step the copyright issue by not storing or "publishing" the work and just "displaying" it differently to a single viewer. After all the browser is already display its own visual representation of the "text" (html). So I assume if this was written as a browser plugin, it would be fine, or at least fine-ish? Is that actually true? What about if it was writen as a Greasemonkey script? Still fine? What if the "Greasemonkey script" was actually just a regular javascript that was distributed with the "list of links" that then queried the articles from the client and then formatted them "nicely"? I think that might fly but seems grey? Anyone have any (real) experience with this? What if the client side script also stashed the "formatted" texts in the local storage for offline viewing?

diegoperini 8y ago
How does Pocket handle this? It has the same feature afterall.
freediver 8y ago
Search engines do it to some extent too when showing snippets. There must be some special provision saying that isn't copyright violation. Wondering what did the author use here to extract content? edit: its php-redability, project is here https://github.com/mauricesvay/FullHackerNews https://github.com/mauricesvay/FullHackerNews
- marcoperaza 8y ago
  Snippets are more likely to be fair use. One of the fair use factor is how much of the original work you use.
zone411 8y ago
I've had to deal with a copyright issue recently and the answer to questions like this is usually a solid "maybe." E.g. the New York district court recently disagreed with the Ninth Circuit about the "server test" (https://newmedialaw.proskauer.com/2018/03/02/new-york-court-rebuffs-ninth-circuits-copyright-server-test-finds-embedded-tweet-displaying-copyrighted-image-to-be-infringement/ https://newmedialaw.proskauer.com/2018/03/02/new-york-court-...)

by yaj54 8y ago

diegoperini 8y ago

How does Pocket handle this? It has the same feature afterall.

freediver 8y ago

Search engines do it to some extent too when showing snippets. There must be some special provision saying that isn't copyright violation. Wondering what did the author use here to extract content? edit: its php-redability, project is here https://github.com/mauricesvay/FullHackerNews https://github.com/mauricesvay/FullHackerNews

marcoperaza 8y ago
Snippets are more likely to be fair use. One of the fair use factor is how much of the original work you use.

zone411 8y ago

I've had to deal with a copyright issue recently and the answer to questions like this is usually a solid "maybe." E.g. the New York district court recently disagreed with the Ninth Circuit about the "server test" (https://newmedialaw.proskauer.com/2018/03/02/new-york-court-rebuffs-ninth-circuits-copyright-server-test-finds-embedded-tweet-displaying-copyrighted-image-to-be-infringement/ https://newmedialaw.proskauer.com/2018/03/02/new-york-court-...)