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Make things pretty. No amount of hard work and usefulness can amount to a beautiful product. I have strong feelings about Lean Startup who told me to create a

Make things pretty. No amount of hard work and usefulness can amount to a beautiful product. I have strong feelings about Lean Startup who told me to create a MVP, which made me look like an amateur. So, listen to the marketing people and wait to release a beautiful finished product.

vmarshall23 8y ago
Amen. I've shown the exact same application on a dingy thinkpad and a shiny new retina iPad, and had diametrically opposite reactions.
mindcrime 8y ago
... MVP, which made me look like an amateur. If you're in a domain where aesthetics and "beauty" matter, then your MVP is missing the "V" unless you have, indeed, made the thing beautiful. The Lean Startup approach doesn't tell you not to make things beautiful... it just tells you to make only what you need to validate your hypothesis. If that means making something beautiful, then you make it beautiful.
- MrEfficiency 8y ago
  The website has a wikipedia feel, free and useful information. There are lots of fans currently, but at the time(and to this date), I get people questioning legitimacy due to a having a white shadow in my CSS.
artificial 8y ago
"...which made me look like an amateur." This made me chuckle since I can only imagine the frustration.
birdman3131 8y ago
As a user I beg of you not to sacrifice usefulness and features for Pretty. Seen way too may times where stuff was rewritten to look better but usability suffered. Case in point: Walmart recently redid their self checkouts. The new system looks a lot better and I like it if it did not take 3 times as long to pay. It even took forever compared to the old one to register cash being inserted. And there were several complete lockups. Recently it seems better so I believe they have been working on the back end but for a while I would not even touch them
- Humdeee 8y ago
  Waitmart takes even longer with these systems? I generally always go to cashiers for that reason. I feel like I'm becoming the minority who would rather deal with an actual person than an automated system most of the time, and I develop automated software.
  - brianpgordon 8y ago
    I avoid the self-checkout because I don't appreciate the (perceived) atmosphere of suspicion that you're trying to steal something.
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vmarshall23 8y ago

Amen. I've shown the exact same application on a dingy thinkpad and a shiny new retina iPad, and had diametrically opposite reactions.

mindcrime 8y ago

... MVP, which made me look like an amateur. If you're in a domain where aesthetics and "beauty" matter, then your MVP is missing the "V" unless you have, indeed, made the thing beautiful. The Lean Startup approach doesn't tell you not to make things beautiful... it just tells you to make only what you need to validate your hypothesis. If that means making something beautiful, then you make it beautiful.

MrEfficiency 8y ago
The website has a wikipedia feel, free and useful information. There are lots of fans currently, but at the time(and to this date), I get people questioning legitimacy due to a having a white shadow in my CSS.

artificial 8y ago

"...which made me look like an amateur." This made me chuckle since I can only imagine the frustration.

birdman3131 8y ago

As a user I beg of you not to sacrifice usefulness and features for Pretty. Seen way too may times where stuff was rewritten to look better but usability suffered. Case in point: Walmart recently redid their self checkouts. The new system looks a lot better and I like it if it did not take 3 times as long to pay. It even took forever compared to the old one to register cash being inserted. And there were several complete lockups. Recently it seems better so I believe they have been working on the back end but for a while I would not even touch them

Humdeee 8y ago
Waitmart takes even longer with these systems? I generally always go to cashiers for that reason. I feel like I'm becoming the minority who would rather deal with an actual person than an automated system most of the time, and I develop automated software.
- brianpgordon 8y ago
  I avoid the self-checkout because I don't appreciate the (perceived) atmosphere of suspicion that you're trying to steal something.
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