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Good job Google. I'm a very harsh critique of Google due to the threat they pose for privacy, however here they are doing a good thing, along the lines of the

Good job Google. I'm a very harsh critique of Google due to the threat they pose for privacy, however here they are doing a good thing, along the lines of the public DNS servers they provide, which I know have helped people [1]. Having your requests go through Google is not ideal, however not many people have the capacity to search for better, but more obscure solutions. Also this isn't about privacy, but about working around censorship at the DNS level. If you want privacy, you use an anonymous VPN or Tor. And frankly, if you can't trust Google's privacy policy for this service, then you shouldn't use a Google phone. [1] https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/

asimpletune 8y ago
It’s cool though that they allow you to use cloud flare if you want.
i_phish_cats 8y ago
And yet another part of the company is creating a censored version so that the CCP will let them back into china.
- anotherevan 8y ago
  Yes, that irony was not lost on me either. I was thinking that someone should introduce Google's left and right hands to each other.
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- bduerst 8y ago
  I mean, China's the one censoring it. Google could link to the censored websites in the results but that would be a terrible user experience. Wouldn't it be better to do what they do with DMCA takedowns in the US, where they tell you how many results have been removed and why? And Google already censors search results in the EU with the right to be forgotten, where they've received 41,000 requests from EU politicians, so there is precedence in working with local governments
  - rrix2 8y ago
    They also tied every search request with a government ID according to some reports and one must assume they’re willing and able to share that with the Chinese state security. As far as I’m aware the EU isn’t targeting minority citizens for increased surveillance like the Chinese state is doing to the Uighurs either.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      >They also tied every search request with a government ID according to some reports Which ones? I wasn't aware it was even live. Are you talking about Bing, which is already operating in China?
      - rrix2 8y ago
        I wrote in past tense incorrectly, my grammar isn’t so great. https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-links-searches-to-phone-numbers/ https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l...

asimpletune 8y ago

It’s cool though that they allow you to use cloud flare if you want.

i_phish_cats 8y ago

And yet another part of the company is creating a censored version so that the CCP will let them back into china.

anotherevan 8y ago
Yes, that irony was not lost on me either. I was thinking that someone should introduce Google's left and right hands to each other.
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bduerst 8y ago
I mean, China's the one censoring it. Google could link to the censored websites in the results but that would be a terrible user experience. Wouldn't it be better to do what they do with DMCA takedowns in the US, where they tell you how many results have been removed and why? And Google already censors search results in the EU with the right to be forgotten, where they've received 41,000 requests from EU politicians, so there is precedence in working with local governments
- rrix2 8y ago
  They also tied every search request with a government ID according to some reports and one must assume they’re willing and able to share that with the Chinese state security. As far as I’m aware the EU isn’t targeting minority citizens for increased surveillance like the Chinese state is doing to the Uighurs either.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    >They also tied every search request with a government ID according to some reports Which ones? I wasn't aware it was even live. Are you talking about Bing, which is already operating in China?
    - rrix2 8y ago
      I wrote in past tense incorrectly, my grammar isn’t so great. https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-links-searches-to-phone-numbers/ https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l...