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When you have a project, you learn by necessity. When you are taking a course to expand your abilities, you learn voluntarily. I find learning via projects is

When you have a project, you learn by necessity. When you are taking a course to expand your abilities, you learn voluntarily. I find learning via projects is the fastest and most useful. I am unsure if I will take courses ever again.

Kagerjay 8y ago
I have a project, but I take courses to expand the abilities to which I need for that project For every project I do, I will have many shitty project follow alongs from MOOC's Its far more efficient I learn the big picture in the shallowest way possible, than deep dive into a project
scarface74 8y ago
I never learn voluntarily. Anything I learn is either for my current job, or the next job I’m looking to get - whether I am actively looking or not. For instance, I’m not going to learn the intricacies of Rust to scratch an itch if I see that there are no jobs for it. Does that make me mercenary and show a lack of “passion”? Probably.
- fredsir 8y ago
  > I never learn voluntarily Are there nothing you do out of passion? I'm sure there is. You got any hobbies? I'm sure you learn about that voluntarily.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    No hobbies that require learning. My free time is consumed by exercise and just spending time with my wife. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy development and learning more about software development/architecture, but I focus that on what’s marketable.
    - fredsir 8y ago
      > My free time is consumed by exercise and just spending time with my wife. Plenty of learning involved with that. Spending time with you wife means constantly learning about her, and about you and her in tandem. Exercising means constantly learning about your body and the exercises you do, and the combination of those parts. Of course, it is possible to spend time with someone as well as exercising without learning anything, but it seems you a voluntarily involved in both, so my guess is that you are not resisting learning but are instead voluntarily learning :)
maxxxxx 8y ago
"I find learning via projects is the fastest and most useful. I am unsure if I will take courses ever again. " I also learn mostly through projects but I think sometimes it's good to take a dedicated class to expand my horizon further than the immediate need or just into a completely new area.
anonymous5133 8y ago
I think you need a combination of both. Just working on random projects isn't feasible all the time. I've worked on projects where I simply did not know how to complete said project and googling didn't help much. There is real value from taking a voluntary formal course that is comprehensive. It will give you the basic foundation to master the subject. You can use projects to refine your skill.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Was it software related? Can you give an example?
jpindar 8y ago
Learning by necessity while doing a project is the cause of many security issues. Learning by necessity means you get the happy path to work.

Kagerjay 8y ago

I have a project, but I take courses to expand the abilities to which I need for that project For every project I do, I will have many shitty project follow alongs from MOOC's Its far more efficient I learn the big picture in the shallowest way possible, than deep dive into a project

scarface74 8y ago

I never learn voluntarily. Anything I learn is either for my current job, or the next job I’m looking to get - whether I am actively looking or not. For instance, I’m not going to learn the intricacies of Rust to scratch an itch if I see that there are no jobs for it. Does that make me mercenary and show a lack of “passion”? Probably.

fredsir 8y ago
> I never learn voluntarily Are there nothing you do out of passion? I'm sure there is. You got any hobbies? I'm sure you learn about that voluntarily.
- scarface74 8y ago
  No hobbies that require learning. My free time is consumed by exercise and just spending time with my wife. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy development and learning more about software development/architecture, but I focus that on what’s marketable.
  - fredsir 8y ago
    > My free time is consumed by exercise and just spending time with my wife. Plenty of learning involved with that. Spending time with you wife means constantly learning about her, and about you and her in tandem. Exercising means constantly learning about your body and the exercises you do, and the combination of those parts. Of course, it is possible to spend time with someone as well as exercising without learning anything, but it seems you a voluntarily involved in both, so my guess is that you are not resisting learning but are instead voluntarily learning :)

maxxxxx 8y ago

"I find learning via projects is the fastest and most useful. I am unsure if I will take courses ever again. " I also learn mostly through projects but I think sometimes it's good to take a dedicated class to expand my horizon further than the immediate need or just into a completely new area.

anonymous5133 8y ago

I think you need a combination of both. Just working on random projects isn't feasible all the time. I've worked on projects where I simply did not know how to complete said project and googling didn't help much. There is real value from taking a voluntary formal course that is comprehensive. It will give you the basic foundation to master the subject. You can use projects to refine your skill.

scarface74 8y ago
Was it software related? Can you give an example?

jpindar 8y ago

Learning by necessity while doing a project is the cause of many security issues. Learning by necessity means you get the happy path to work.