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I agree completely, this is the "oh shit I clicked the wrong button" -view in finder. Its even worse in save dialogs. Sometimes using this abomination is the o

by bni 8y ago

I agree completely, this is the "oh shit I clicked the wrong button" -view in finder. Its even worse in save dialogs. Sometimes using this abomination is the only way to go "up" in the filesystem.

moftz 8y ago
It only really makes sense for trees that have low depth.
OskarS 8y ago
Sometimes using this abomination is the only way to go "up" in the filesystem. Yes! So annoying that finder doesn't just have button for "go up in hierarchy" at least somewhere on every screen (whether it's regular Finder or a save/open dialog). It's totally baffling to me. We can find room for the "Tag file" feature nobody uses, but a "go up in hierarchy" button is apparently too much to ask for.
- jayrhynas 8y ago
  I know that some people still prefer a button, but cmd-up on your keyboard will go up a level in both Finder and in file dialogs.
  - jillesvangurp 8y ago
    Thanks, I've only been using macs for ten years or so and never knew :-). Discoverability of features is a thing. Having something that is hard to discover is almost the same as not having the feature at all.
    - jacobush 8y ago
      Took me a loooong time to realize Visual Studio can pop out source windows, so I can put them on another screen, for instance.
      - mthoms 8y ago
        Wait... how?
        genocidicbunny 8y ago
        If you have 2012 or newer, just grab the item tab and pull it to another screen.[1] You can also rearrange the tabs within a window to have for example, several files open side by side. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/customizing-window-layouts-in-visual-studio?view=vs-2017#arrange-and-dock-windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/customizin...
      - konamicode 8y ago
        My default VS layout is to have two full screens: editor on the left screen where I often have a source file and its tests open side by side and on the right screen - the source tree, the test runner, the output window, team explorer etc.
    - jacobolus 8y ago
      There is a menu option Go → Enclosing Folder, which clearly lists the keyboard shortcut. In general, responsibly designed Mac programs should have a menu option for every available command. This is highly discoverable (assuming users know to look in the menus, and the menus aren’t so long or deeply nested that the commands are buried). Unfortunately in an era of web apps, mobile devices, hacky cross-platform software, etc., fewer and fewer users properly learn the basic Mac platform UI conventions. This particular convention (commands available as menu options with keyboard shortcuts listed next to them) has been largely unchanged for >30 years. I’m not sure about the precise origin of the shortcut for opening the enclosing folder, but it dates from at least the beginning of OS X. One Finder shortcut which is less discoverable which you might also find useful is ⌘↓ (command-down) for opening a selected item.
- smoser 8y ago
  The SO Apple site has some suggestions. Sadly some of the 'app buttons' are outdated. I'm interested making an updated one and throwing it on the App Store. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/25813/add-an-up-button-to-the-lion-finder https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/25813/add-an-up-bu...
- ghostly_s 8y ago
  There's a dropdown menu at the top-center of every file browser dialog that lets you jump to any parent level in the hierarchy, no?
  - dreamcompiler 8y ago
    Yes, but you have to cmd-click or right-click it.
    - ghostly_s 8y ago
      No? You seem to be talking about title bar behavior. There is a normal dropdown menu right in the top center of the standard 'Save' and 'Open' dialogs.

by bni 8y ago

I agree completely, this is the "oh shit I clicked the wrong button" -view in finder. Its even worse in save dialogs. Sometimes using this abomination is the only way to go "up" in the filesystem.

moftz 8y ago

It only really makes sense for trees that have low depth.

OskarS 8y ago

Sometimes using this abomination is the only way to go "up" in the filesystem. Yes! So annoying that finder doesn't just have button for "go up in hierarchy" at least somewhere on every screen (whether it's regular Finder or a save/open dialog). It's totally baffling to me. We can find room for the "Tag file" feature nobody uses, but a "go up in hierarchy" button is apparently too much to ask for.

jayrhynas 8y ago
I know that some people still prefer a button, but cmd-up on your keyboard will go up a level in both Finder and in file dialogs.
- jillesvangurp 8y ago
  Thanks, I've only been using macs for ten years or so and never knew :-). Discoverability of features is a thing. Having something that is hard to discover is almost the same as not having the feature at all.
  - jacobush 8y ago
    Took me a loooong time to realize Visual Studio can pop out source windows, so I can put them on another screen, for instance.
    - mthoms 8y ago
      Wait... how?
      - genocidicbunny 8y ago
        If you have 2012 or newer, just grab the item tab and pull it to another screen.[1] You can also rearrange the tabs within a window to have for example, several files open side by side. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/customizing-window-layouts-in-visual-studio?view=vs-2017#arrange-and-dock-windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/customizin...
    - konamicode 8y ago
      My default VS layout is to have two full screens: editor on the left screen where I often have a source file and its tests open side by side and on the right screen - the source tree, the test runner, the output window, team explorer etc.
  - jacobolus 8y ago
    There is a menu option Go → Enclosing Folder, which clearly lists the keyboard shortcut. In general, responsibly designed Mac programs should have a menu option for every available command. This is highly discoverable (assuming users know to look in the menus, and the menus aren’t so long or deeply nested that the commands are buried). Unfortunately in an era of web apps, mobile devices, hacky cross-platform software, etc., fewer and fewer users properly learn the basic Mac platform UI conventions. This particular convention (commands available as menu options with keyboard shortcuts listed next to them) has been largely unchanged for >30 years. I’m not sure about the precise origin of the shortcut for opening the enclosing folder, but it dates from at least the beginning of OS X. One Finder shortcut which is less discoverable which you might also find useful is ⌘↓ (command-down) for opening a selected item.
smoser 8y ago
The SO Apple site has some suggestions. Sadly some of the 'app buttons' are outdated. I'm interested making an updated one and throwing it on the App Store. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/25813/add-an-up-button-to-the-lion-finder https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/25813/add-an-up-bu...
ghostly_s 8y ago
There's a dropdown menu at the top-center of every file browser dialog that lets you jump to any parent level in the hierarchy, no?
- dreamcompiler 8y ago
  Yes, but you have to cmd-click or right-click it.
  - ghostly_s 8y ago
    No? You seem to be talking about title bar behavior. There is a normal dropdown menu right in the top center of the standard 'Save' and 'Open' dialogs.