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These are not the same. Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem. Not having a Facebook reflects rather po

by blfr 8y ago

These are not the same. Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem. Not having a Facebook reflects rather positively on us.

AstralStorm 8y ago
What do you mean? Household names like IKEA? Service workhorses like SAP? Car manufacturers? Huge data centers like OVH? Pioneers like Nokia, Ericsson and Siemens used to be? (in some ways still are) Or monopolist companies specifically? Really, nobody wants Acme Inc. Even if its logo is painted with fancy colors and it promotes youth culture. Google's main business is monopolizing internet advertising and data collection...
- rayiner 8y ago
  > Huge data centers like OVH? Pioneers like Nokia, Ericsson and Siemens used to be? (in some ways still are) The US makes appa that suck down 5MB to display a status update; Scandanavia builds the equipment that makes it possible.
chobeat 8y ago
Big platforms are a strategic asset that Europe is missing. Hardware production is a strategic asset that USA is missing. In case of a prolonged trade war, I'm not sure Europe is in the worse position between the two.
- varjag 8y ago
  The USA is way bigger at hardware manufacturing.
jylam 8y ago
> Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem May I ask why ?
- nine_k 8y ago
  Because you're going to use what these companies produce, since their products dominate the market. E.g. your smartphone is going to be either Android or iOS, no matter how I abstractly would like Sailfish / Jolla to succeed. That is, these are not woes of globalization, but woes of monopolization of a market, partly due to the natural "winner takes all" dynamics of said market. BTW both EC and USA have the same sort of problem with a lot of things manufactured now in China, with domestic know-how lost.

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These are not the same. Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem. Not having a Facebook reflects rather po

by blfr 8y ago

These are not the same. Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem. Not having a Facebook reflects rather positively on us.

AstralStorm 8y ago
What do you mean? Household names like IKEA? Service workhorses like SAP? Car manufacturers? Huge data centers like OVH? Pioneers like Nokia, Ericsson and Siemens used to be? (in some ways still are) Or monopolist companies specifically? Really, nobody wants Acme Inc. Even if its logo is painted with fancy colors and it promotes youth culture. Google's main business is monopolizing internet advertising and data collection...
- rayiner 8y ago
  > Huge data centers like OVH? Pioneers like Nokia, Ericsson and Siemens used to be? (in some ways still are) The US makes appa that suck down 5MB to display a status update; Scandanavia builds the equipment that makes it possible.
chobeat 8y ago
Big platforms are a strategic asset that Europe is missing. Hardware production is a strategic asset that USA is missing. In case of a prolonged trade war, I'm not sure Europe is in the worse position between the two.
- varjag 8y ago
  The USA is way bigger at hardware manufacturing.
jylam 8y ago
> Yes, not having Google-like companies, even with their recent turn for the worse, is a problem May I ask why ?
- nine_k 8y ago
  Because you're going to use what these companies produce, since their products dominate the market. E.g. your smartphone is going to be either Android or iOS, no matter how I abstractly would like Sailfish / Jolla to succeed. That is, these are not woes of globalization, but woes of monopolization of a market, partly due to the natural "winner takes all" dynamics of said market. BTW both EC and USA have the same sort of problem with a lot of things manufactured now in China, with domestic know-how lost.