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I previously wrote about why this will never happen. https://www.devever.net/~hl/intelme https://www.devever.net/~hl/intelme The TLDR is that once they started

I previously wrote about why this will never happen. https://www.devever.net/~hl/intelme https://www.devever.net/~hl/intelme The TLDR is that once they started putting a CPU vendor-controlled management CPU on their chipsets, they realised they could use it to implement DRM that Hollywood had been asking them for. We know that AMD has a contractual obligation to DRM vendors not to open source their GPU firmware for this reason, and it's likely Intel and AMD have similar contractual obligations as regards their Intel ME/AMD PSP firmware, as these are also involved in DRM.

executesorder66 8y ago
Do you have any source for a time this DRM worked? What I mean is that I have watched/downloaded/streamed a lot of pirated content from various sources, using Intel and AMD hardware. CPU's and GPUs. Not once have the drivers blocked the viewing of pirated content via some kind of built in DRM. So if there is DRM baked into the drivers/ME, then what's the point if it doesn't do anything?
- smolder 8y ago
  DRM doesn't stop you from playing pirated content, the goal is to make the content only decryptable using approved hardware/software, to limit people's ability to copy and paste content Willy nilly and share with their friends in Napster fashion. The determined people still stealing content never will be stopped, but it's inconvenient enough that average people aren't going to duplicate DRM-laden stuff themselves. Importantly, I think, when there's a higher barrier to content theft, the remaining sources of pirated content are fewer and easier to track.
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  - SXX 8y ago
    > Importantly, I think, when there's a higher barrier to content theft, the remaining sources of pirated content are fewer and easier to track. Except DRM on end-user devices is done with security by obscurity and it's never ever worked for media. And never will. So there is so many sources of pirated content that attempts to track of stop them never succeeded. Fortunately NSA and other government spying organizations can still have their backdoor because "Hollywood needs DRM" bullshit.
    - someguydave 8y ago
      Yeah but I bet the hardware makers will still take fat contracts from the content providers to pay lip service to DRM

executesorder66 8y ago

Do you have any source for a time this DRM worked? What I mean is that I have watched/downloaded/streamed a lot of pirated content from various sources, using Intel and AMD hardware. CPU's and GPUs. Not once have the drivers blocked the viewing of pirated content via some kind of built in DRM. So if there is DRM baked into the drivers/ME, then what's the point if it doesn't do anything?

smolder 8y ago
DRM doesn't stop you from playing pirated content, the goal is to make the content only decryptable using approved hardware/software, to limit people's ability to copy and paste content Willy nilly and share with their friends in Napster fashion. The determined people still stealing content never will be stopped, but it's inconvenient enough that average people aren't going to duplicate DRM-laden stuff themselves. Importantly, I think, when there's a higher barrier to content theft, the remaining sources of pirated content are fewer and easier to track.
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- SXX 8y ago
  > Importantly, I think, when there's a higher barrier to content theft, the remaining sources of pirated content are fewer and easier to track. Except DRM on end-user devices is done with security by obscurity and it's never ever worked for media. And never will. So there is so many sources of pirated content that attempts to track of stop them never succeeded. Fortunately NSA and other government spying organizations can still have their backdoor because "Hollywood needs DRM" bullshit.
  - someguydave 8y ago
    Yeah but I bet the hardware makers will still take fat contracts from the content providers to pay lip service to DRM