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I appreciate that you are satisfied with your income and that the desire for more irks you. However, I think one thing to consider is that capitalism always mea

I appreciate that you are satisfied with your income and that the desire for more irks you. However, I think one thing to consider is that capitalism always means that people are making money on top of the cost of your labour. Maybe the capitalists took a huge risk of investing (employing) you and you feel grateful to leave more money to them. Maybe the capitalists do a lot of work for themselves too and are rewarded appropriately in equity. But it's not uncommon that labour is just exploited.

madamelic 8y ago
>But it's not uncommon that labour is just exploited This trope is total BS. It makes workers out to be idiots who are too naive to understand the situation. Of course people are making a profit off me. That's the entire point of employment, I give you labor, you give me a steady paycheck. If I don't like it, I can figure out how to give other's work and a steady paycheck then take the profit. Thinking that somehow if all workers striked, formed unions or formed co-ops, suddenly the world would be "fair" is naive. Humans are greedy. It's in our brains to try to grab as many resources as possible. Socialism is far more opaque than capitalism because greed is chided and has to be hidden (!) I'd much rather have people building new things, trying to grab as much wealth as possible than be stuck in a system where creativity and drive aren't rewarded. It's total game theory: If Joe doesn't care, he will do the least amount of work. If I can never make more than Joe, then I will do less work than Joe. It's all about minimizing cost (effort) and maximizing profit (money). Once you disconnect effort from money, the system sucks, which can be an argument for why workers deserve pay raises.
- whytaka 8y ago
  I notice that greedy people like to characterize all of humanity as greedy so they feel justified in being greedy.
  - madamelic 8y ago
    I don't think I'm that greedy, I definitely ask for and have more than I actually need. I just built the assumption from the common pattern in why socialism has failed in the past ("All of us are equal, but some of us are more equal than the others") The top of the pyramid in socialism always gets more therefore humans are greedy. Also, it would make sense in my mind, from an evolutionary standpoint of why being greedy is actually a good trait. I'm not advocating that unchecked greed is great. I am advocating that understanding our brains is better, then we can check ourselves from that.

madamelic 8y ago

>But it's not uncommon that labour is just exploited This trope is total BS. It makes workers out to be idiots who are too naive to understand the situation. Of course people are making a profit off me. That's the entire point of employment, I give you labor, you give me a steady paycheck. If I don't like it, I can figure out how to give other's work and a steady paycheck then take the profit. Thinking that somehow if all workers striked, formed unions or formed co-ops, suddenly the world would be "fair" is naive. Humans are greedy. It's in our brains to try to grab as many resources as possible. Socialism is far more opaque than capitalism because greed is chided and has to be hidden (!) I'd much rather have people building new things, trying to grab as much wealth as possible than be stuck in a system where creativity and drive aren't rewarded. It's total game theory: If Joe doesn't care, he will do the least amount of work. If I can never make more than Joe, then I will do less work than Joe. It's all about minimizing cost (effort) and maximizing profit (money). Once you disconnect effort from money, the system sucks, which can be an argument for why workers deserve pay raises.

whytaka 8y ago
I notice that greedy people like to characterize all of humanity as greedy so they feel justified in being greedy.
- madamelic 8y ago
  I don't think I'm that greedy, I definitely ask for and have more than I actually need. I just built the assumption from the common pattern in why socialism has failed in the past ("All of us are equal, but some of us are more equal than the others") The top of the pyramid in socialism always gets more therefore humans are greedy. Also, it would make sense in my mind, from an evolutionary standpoint of why being greedy is actually a good trait. I'm not advocating that unchecked greed is great. I am advocating that understanding our brains is better, then we can check ourselves from that.