David Graeber in Bullshit Jobs, says people have been conditioned to insist that you can't be productive without suffering in the process, and he goes on to mak

David Graeber in Bullshit Jobs, says people have been conditioned to insist that you can't be productive without suffering in the process, and he goes on to makes a case for Universal Income (because modern society is productive enough to feed and house everyone). I think it misses the point. People want a job where they grow as human beings, and you can't grow without suffering/trial. Pointless jobs are depressing. If you figure out how to get paid without doing anymore work, that's cool, but then what are you going to do? If you want to grow and make society a better place, it's better to find something else to do, either with the same company or somewhere better that isn't so dysfunctional.