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Thank you for sharing this. I’ve donated (small amounts of) money to Mozilla and Wikipedia in the past. Your post makes me consider donating to archive.org this

Thank you for sharing this. I’ve donated (small amounts of) money to Mozilla and Wikipedia in the past. Your post makes me consider donating to archive.org this year. Edit: typo

nojvek 8y ago
How does archive.org make money? I imagine their storage costs must be quite high.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  They don’t. They are a non-profit 501c3 charity that relies on donations.
  - scrollaway 8y ago
    I think what the parent meant is "how does archive.org pay their bills?".
    - toomuchtodo 8y ago
      I thought I was answering that. Where did I go wrong?
      - scrollaway 8y ago
        Are you saying they don't pay their bills?
        toomuchtodo 8y ago
        I'm saying they pay their bills (utilities, hardware costs, salaries) with donations, US dollars obtained from those donating. > How does archive.org make money? Donations (https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943242767 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943...) > I imagine their storage costs must be quite high. No, they aren't. Building and hosting your own storage is cheap. Same reason Backblaze and Dropbox built their own storage systems.
        scrollaway 8y ago
        > Building and hosting your own storage is cheap Archive.org uses S3 extensively. Not exactly cheap.
        toomuchtodo 8y ago
        Can you provide a citation? To my knowledge, the Archive does not use Amazon's S3 storage system (which they refer to in places as "S3" [1]), only they're on their own internal storage system [2]. [1] https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt [2] https://archive.org/web/petabox.php https://archive.org/web/petabox.php
        noufalibrahim 8y ago
        To the best of my knowledge, the Archive has it's own machines to store data. It is an Archive and one of the principles was to have the know how to preserve data even if the cloud providers disappear.
        deleted 8y ago
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Thank you for sharing this. I’ve donated (small amounts of) money to Mozilla and Wikipedia in the past. Your post makes me consider donating to archive.org this year. Edit: typo

nojvek 8y ago

How does archive.org make money? I imagine their storage costs must be quite high.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
They don’t. They are a non-profit 501c3 charity that relies on donations.
- scrollaway 8y ago
  I think what the parent meant is "how does archive.org pay their bills?".
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I thought I was answering that. Where did I go wrong?
    - scrollaway 8y ago
      Are you saying they don't pay their bills?
      - toomuchtodo 8y ago
        I'm saying they pay their bills (utilities, hardware costs, salaries) with donations, US dollars obtained from those donating. > How does archive.org make money? Donations (https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943242767 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943...) > I imagine their storage costs must be quite high. No, they aren't. Building and hosting your own storage is cheap. Same reason Backblaze and Dropbox built their own storage systems.
        scrollaway 8y ago
        > Building and hosting your own storage is cheap Archive.org uses S3 extensively. Not exactly cheap.
        toomuchtodo 8y ago
        Can you provide a citation? To my knowledge, the Archive does not use Amazon's S3 storage system (which they refer to in places as "S3" [1]), only they're on their own internal storage system [2]. [1] https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt [2] https://archive.org/web/petabox.php https://archive.org/web/petabox.php
        noufalibrahim 8y ago
        To the best of my knowledge, the Archive has it's own machines to store data. It is an Archive and one of the principles was to have the know how to preserve data even if the cloud providers disappear.
        deleted 8y ago
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