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This article is a little incoherent TBH. How is debasing someone's work a more effective way of motivating better future work than simply explaining clearly wh

This article is a little incoherent TBH. How is debasing someone's work a more effective way of motivating better future work than simply explaining clearly what you need improved? Angry words are necessarily going to come across as personal no matter how much you want them to mean something else.

dieterrams 8y ago
Watch Whiplash.
everdev 8y ago
In my opinion, anger is an excellent short-term motivator. Jobs probably wanted something done that day or that week and had to get pissed to motivate everyone to work extra hours to get it done. It certainly does come with a long-term price though of people thinking you're a jerk and burning out on your anger. So, it depends on what your goals are. But, if you don't mind burning through staff and relationships, getting pissed will probably get you more short-term bang for your buck than being kind and calm.
- watwut 8y ago
  What if it is just lack of self-control while the rest of us is expected be able to keep our emotions in control. Seriously. Had I unleashed like that, I would be seen as hysterical. And also, what if letting someone unleash on you is not a sign of strength, but simply sign of being weaker not being stand up for yourself And also, what if someone need to be yelled at to do good work does not make him good engineer, really. And also, what if long term crunch is ineffective and short term overtime should not require yelling. What if it is possible to build large company while not being perfect and it is the "not perfect" thing about job.
- fenomas 8y ago
  > Jobs probably wanted something done that day or that week and had to get pissed to motivate everyone.. That's possible, but I think "Jobs got angry because he angered easily, regardless of whether it was necessary to motivate people" would be the more parsimonious explanation.
SamReidHughes 8y ago
Anger actually works. In the short run, at least. Maybe in the long run too. Humans are actually perfectly capable of dealing with natural human-to-human interactions that aren't programmed by arbiters of empathy. This is because the species was the product of evolution, if not intelligently designed.

dieterrams 8y ago

Watch Whiplash.

everdev 8y ago

In my opinion, anger is an excellent short-term motivator. Jobs probably wanted something done that day or that week and had to get pissed to motivate everyone to work extra hours to get it done. It certainly does come with a long-term price though of people thinking you're a jerk and burning out on your anger. So, it depends on what your goals are. But, if you don't mind burning through staff and relationships, getting pissed will probably get you more short-term bang for your buck than being kind and calm.

watwut 8y ago
What if it is just lack of self-control while the rest of us is expected be able to keep our emotions in control. Seriously. Had I unleashed like that, I would be seen as hysterical. And also, what if letting someone unleash on you is not a sign of strength, but simply sign of being weaker not being stand up for yourself And also, what if someone need to be yelled at to do good work does not make him good engineer, really. And also, what if long term crunch is ineffective and short term overtime should not require yelling. What if it is possible to build large company while not being perfect and it is the "not perfect" thing about job.
fenomas 8y ago
> Jobs probably wanted something done that day or that week and had to get pissed to motivate everyone.. That's possible, but I think "Jobs got angry because he angered easily, regardless of whether it was necessary to motivate people" would be the more parsimonious explanation.

SamReidHughes 8y ago

Anger actually works. In the short run, at least. Maybe in the long run too. Humans are actually perfectly capable of dealing with natural human-to-human interactions that aren't programmed by arbiters of empathy. This is because the species was the product of evolution, if not intelligently designed.