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I think what he’s doing is reckless and his behaviour is really immature. A CEO is supposed to be doing the opposite of everything he has been doing for the las

I think what he’s doing is reckless and his behaviour is really immature. A CEO is supposed to be doing the opposite of everything he has been doing for the last few weeks.

stcredzero 8y ago
The latest tweet could just be interpreted as a normal person having a sense of humor. However, also taking into account the past year, I would say he's reckless and immature. From what I've seen, probably to the same extent as most tech people in SV/Bay Area. The more I think about nerds/geeks/dorks and their cultural ethos, as it developed in decades past under the thumb of a pre-internet dominant "normie" culture, the less I'm surprised about excesses and abuses of power. In this, I'm talking very generally, not with regards to any particular social issue or political controversy. A group which overcomes social oppression then becomes ascendant, often experiences an efflorescence of group pride which others can also take as tacky. “For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.” -- George S. Patton.
jiveturkey 8y ago
I'd say the same for a President. What a world we live in!
jlarocco 8y ago
I don't particularly like Musk, and I understand why people are mad, but Musk doesn't owe them anything. Anybody who doesn't like it can sell their Tesla stock and walk away. Same goes with Tesla employees. It's not like he just started doing stupid stuff like this a couple weeks ago. Edit: It's also amusing to see so many people on HN pushing the, "think of the shareholders" line.
- thrill 8y ago
  Wrong. Musk as an officer of TSLA, a publicly traded company, most explicitly has fiduciary responsibilities to those who hold the company's stock.
  - jlarocco 8y ago
    Right, but there's leeway in fiduciary responsibility. Musk has a reputation for doing this type of thing (specifically the immature "naughty by nature" tweet), and running companies that way seems to work for him. People looking to invest with a by-the-book CEO should go somewhere else because that's not Elon Musk.

I think what he’s doing is reckless and his behaviour is really immature. A CEO is supposed to be doing the opposite of everything he has been doing for the last few weeks.

stcredzero 8y ago

The latest tweet could just be interpreted as a normal person having a sense of humor. However, also taking into account the past year, I would say he's reckless and immature. From what I've seen, probably to the same extent as most tech people in SV/Bay Area. The more I think about nerds/geeks/dorks and their cultural ethos, as it developed in decades past under the thumb of a pre-internet dominant "normie" culture, the less I'm surprised about excesses and abuses of power. In this, I'm talking very generally, not with regards to any particular social issue or political controversy. A group which overcomes social oppression then becomes ascendant, often experiences an efflorescence of group pride which others can also take as tacky. “For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.” -- George S. Patton.

jiveturkey 8y ago

I'd say the same for a President. What a world we live in!

jlarocco 8y ago

I don't particularly like Musk, and I understand why people are mad, but Musk doesn't owe them anything. Anybody who doesn't like it can sell their Tesla stock and walk away. Same goes with Tesla employees. It's not like he just started doing stupid stuff like this a couple weeks ago. Edit: It's also amusing to see so many people on HN pushing the, "think of the shareholders" line.

thrill 8y ago
Wrong. Musk as an officer of TSLA, a publicly traded company, most explicitly has fiduciary responsibilities to those who hold the company's stock.
- jlarocco 8y ago
  Right, but there's leeway in fiduciary responsibility. Musk has a reputation for doing this type of thing (specifically the immature "naughty by nature" tweet), and running companies that way seems to work for him. People looking to invest with a by-the-book CEO should go somewhere else because that's not Elon Musk.