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We immediately need a phone and laptop feature called "Border crossing mode". Once you can perhaps active anytime but only gets deactivated once you're physical

by mavdi 8y ago

We immediately need a phone and laptop feature called "Border crossing mode". Once you can perhaps active anytime but only gets deactivated once you're physically in a predefined location.

trhway 8y ago
that mode should be almost always on - the CBP in US can do all that fun stuff to you at any time as long as you're closer than 100 miles to any US border - including ocean. So, for example, CBP can do anything they want to anybody in San Francisco. Granted, for now they do that mostly to "brown" people - well they need to start somewhere to get us into that shiny totalitarian future and of course the start is always with the most vulnerable.
- moonka 8y ago
  ACLU has a good explanation here about the 100 miles to the border. It covers 2/3 of the population. https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- john_kuszmaul 8y ago
  Perhaps that mode could be called full disk encryption? All humans inside the US border have the fifth amendment right to remain silent, so handing over encryption passwords to the CBP is a choice. Unfortunately, the 5th amendment doesn't apply in New Zealand - if you remain silent at a NZ airport while customs ask for your password, they will impose a $5000 fine on you. The only viable solution I see is to only travel to places that do have 5th amendment protection or similar (which would immediately rule out Britain, Ireland, Australia, and now NZ as well).
  - trhway 8y ago
    While I agree with you on the 5th in application to passwords, the judges, at least some, in US - dont.
  - lostlogin 8y ago
    iOS 12 was a painful upgrade for me but the 4th erasure of the phone seems to have worked. What this means is that I am now confident that I don’t lose anything when I erase. So if you have good backups, just erase before the border and walk though with a fresh phone, possibly with some dummy data in there.
    - john_kuszmaul 8y ago
      If you use this strategy, you may want to make sure that you securely erase your data. Secure erasure is rather difficult on SSD, unlike on HDD where one simply overwrites the bytes.
  - mito88 8y ago
    if a border agent sees an encrypted mediq/folder, then you will be prompted for the password...

by mavdi 8y ago

We immediately need a phone and laptop feature called "Border crossing mode". Once you can perhaps active anytime but only gets deactivated once you're physically in a predefined location.

trhway 8y ago

that mode should be almost always on - the CBP in US can do all that fun stuff to you at any time as long as you're closer than 100 miles to any US border - including ocean. So, for example, CBP can do anything they want to anybody in San Francisco. Granted, for now they do that mostly to "brown" people - well they need to start somewhere to get us into that shiny totalitarian future and of course the start is always with the most vulnerable.

moonka 8y ago
ACLU has a good explanation here about the 100 miles to the border. It covers 2/3 of the population. https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
john_kuszmaul 8y ago
Perhaps that mode could be called full disk encryption? All humans inside the US border have the fifth amendment right to remain silent, so handing over encryption passwords to the CBP is a choice. Unfortunately, the 5th amendment doesn't apply in New Zealand - if you remain silent at a NZ airport while customs ask for your password, they will impose a $5000 fine on you. The only viable solution I see is to only travel to places that do have 5th amendment protection or similar (which would immediately rule out Britain, Ireland, Australia, and now NZ as well).
- trhway 8y ago
  While I agree with you on the 5th in application to passwords, the judges, at least some, in US - dont.
- lostlogin 8y ago
  iOS 12 was a painful upgrade for me but the 4th erasure of the phone seems to have worked. What this means is that I am now confident that I don’t lose anything when I erase. So if you have good backups, just erase before the border and walk though with a fresh phone, possibly with some dummy data in there.
  - john_kuszmaul 8y ago
    If you use this strategy, you may want to make sure that you securely erase your data. Secure erasure is rather difficult on SSD, unlike on HDD where one simply overwrites the bytes.
- mito88 8y ago
  if a border agent sees an encrypted mediq/folder, then you will be prompted for the password...