Unless you are against state intervention in cases like these, then you are already accepting that the state can interfere. At that point the question is a matt

Unless you are against state intervention in cases like these, then you are already accepting that the state can interfere. At that point the question is a matter of degree I just can't be charitable with the whole "well the state already does..." arguments. In free societies, the state interfering with child rearing is a serious matter. In totalitarian regimes, it's par for the course.